• hash@lemmy.world
    2·
    9 months ago

    I will pay for premium when it means they will not sell my data and will allow me control over my algorithm to prevent it from playing to my vulerabilities. Since they won’t change, I won’t pay.

    • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev
      1·
      9 months ago

      when it means they will not sell my data and will allow me control over my algorithm to prevent it from playing to my vulerabilities

      The problem is that this will never happen. That boat has sailed - companies will never give up on their existing revenue streams. They may say that paying today will exempt you from the ads, but it’s only a matter of time before they ramp up the cost and start showing ads anyway. That’s how cable television started, and it’s how internet streaming will end as well. And as for the not selling data/controlling the algorithm, well you have no way of proving that they don’t do that so they’ll do it no matter what they say.

      There’s no reason for google to do this whatsoever. They have their business model - any new revenue streams will 100% definitely not reduce the other ones at all. It’s just gonna be another giant dump into the pile of enshittification.

        • snowe@programming.dev
          01·
          9 months ago

          Google doesn’t sell your data, they’re one of the few that don’t. That doesn’t mean they aren’t misusing your data though. They’re more the dragon hoarder than the thief selling off stolen goods. They want all your data so they can learn everything about you. Selling your data to others makes it worth way less. It’s a difference in strategy. Google retains the data to enhance their products, Facebook sells your data because they have no products that would be improved by keeping it.

  • conorab@lemmy.conorab.com
    2·
    9 months ago

    Reasons not to buy premium:

    • Google having a history of all the videos you watch via your account.
    • Even if Google provided an option to opt out of tracking there would be no reason to trust then since they have lied about not tracking people in the past.
    • YouTube seems to redirect any Premium profits intended to creators to the entity which made a copyright claim on a video. This would be sensible if YouTube’s copyright claim system wasn’t so vulnerable to abuse. Normal (yellow) demonetisation will pay out from Premium though. https://youtu.be/PRQVzPEyldc?si=5-wFn2SqPZLdOlqa
    • Features are removed from YouTube to incentivise Premium such as playing videos while your phone screen is locked.
    • Similar to above, Google have been increasing the amount of ads particularly on phones where ad blockers are harder to use. I.E. pushing users to Premium not by making the service better, but by making non-Premium worse.
  • jimbo@lemmy.world
    1·
    9 months ago

    I would be fine paying for a YouTube premium account if I could get one for like $3-4 that just removes the ads. I don’t want their music service.

      • jimbo@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 months ago

        I don’t get what you think that “realization” changes. I occasionally watch videos on YouTube and I’d be willing to pay a certain amount to watch to those videos without ads. Since they don’t offer that, I’m not paying them any money. For the record, they did offer such a plan called “YouTube Premium Lite” not that long ago and they axed it.

    • Gladaed@feddit.de
      0·
      9 months ago

      I am pretty sure that yt music doesnt increase the price by 9 Bucks. Lets not push the blame on that.

  • riodoro1@lemmy.world
    1·
    9 months ago

    Im not holding my breath for someone to start hosting petabytes of videos for free. I don’t like ads, so I’m just going to pay.

  • JCreazy@midwest.socialEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    I had YouTube when it was YouTube red and I was a part of a family plan with my friend for a couple years. I split the family plan with a few people and ended up paying $3 a month. Eventually he moved across country and YouTube said that since we didn’t have the same IP address that I could not be a part of the family plan so I ended up signing up for my own account. At some point I was trying to pay off my debt so I cancelled all my subscription services. YouTube premium included. I started watching YouTube and then I saw it. An ad. Something I hadn’t seen in years. It was the most annoying thing ever. I couldn’t believe that people put up with that. I was so annoyed by the ads that I looked at how to obtain YouTube and YouTube music for free without ads because I needed to save the money and the ads were so intrusive that this was what I was going to do and that is what I still do to this day.

      • Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Yes,

        But the software on it has been completely re-done to enhance it’s privacy and functionality.

        I’m running LineageOSforMicroG,
        with Magisk/LSPosed,
        to run things like AdAway/XPrivacyLua/Blocker.

        Additionally I replace everything I can with FOSS from F-Droid,
        and scan all apps from Aurora (Play Store) with ClassyShark3xodus, against well known trackers, to either look for better alternatives, or to block the spy-ware in them with Blocker.

        Further, a premium no-log VPN, which has been vetted (servers confiscated in the past, though 0 logs retrieved), configured as always-on + block connections without.

        • TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz
          0·
          9 months ago

          Yep, that might actually do it lol. Not even being sarcastic here 😅

          But to be fair, I don’t think most people are tech-literate enough to set up and use all of that properly. I think it would help if someone compiled a one-install package of all of that, but lots of people just don’t like change.

          • Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            I don’t expect that average users will become android/privacy experts.

            I don’t even think of my own privacy being all that important.

            However systematic privacy,
            through laws that protect us all,
            that’s what the average joe should be made aware off and stand up for.

  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml
    1·
    9 months ago

    I pay for YouTube Premium. I didn’t really want that, I just wanted YouTube Music, but it didn’t make sense to just pay for YT Music. I don’t want Spotify and Amazon Music kinda sucks so YT music worked best.

  • BluesF@lemmy.world
    1·
    9 months ago

    YouTube premium has millions of users and it makes them literally billions of dollars. There is no boulder.