I love the irony of it using google analytics.
It’s being worked on. Baby steps.
The fact that it had to be ungoogled is laughable.
The thought process: “hmm buy-european-made needs analytics, what to pick, what to pick… google analytics! yes best choice gold star”
The creator originally used a website maker which had it as standard. I saw in another community that they’ve got some folks helping them to rebuild it without using the sitebuilder so they can get rid of Google analytics. So hopefully it’ll be rid of Google soon!
It was made with Airtable.
Think this was posted 18hours ago to this community
Oops, I though it was the European alternatives one
Probably, a collaboration between these two would be useful.
It has been posted a dozen times I feel. Like twice a week or something. Let’s just say people who are in here have probably seen it.
It also still lists proton mail, despite the CEO recently Trump-simping, and the questionable history in other regards.
Also that one has been posted quite a few times. But fret not! From upvotes I gather some found this for the first time and that is always positive ;)
Anybody try qwant? I’m giving it a quick try because this is the first I’m hearing about it. Seems alright?
I’ve been using it for a while now, works perfectly for my use cases. Using Le Chat for the occasional AI use cases as well, works great.
I’ve been using it for the past two weeks and its great! In my experience the search results are as good or sometimes better than google. It lacks the AI and tooltips of google so you get less visual bloat and nonesense, but you do have to actually go to one of the results to find your answer, so it takes slightly more time but you also get more/better context.
I tried ecosia and duckduckgo before but ended up going back to google due to the better results. But qwant is much better and i dont see myself going back to google.
I would have liked to use it (it’s French, like me ;) but since they sell ads and I refuse to see ads (and I’d rather not see my data being collected in order to sell ads)… I don’t use them.
Meh 🤷
They were historically completely dependent on Bing (like most other search engines) and while they continued putting some efforts in building their own index, they’re nowhere close to it.
They also recently made a few moves to push advertising and to compromise with privacy (eg. the option to create tracked account to access some AI services).
On the other hands they will probably be more respectful than Google, and the quality of Google’s results seems to be degrading faster than Qwant is improving 🤷
I’d guess Ecosia is in a similar situation. I’ve personally been using Kagi for a while but recent events make me consider moving to a European alternative too.
Kagi also used Yandex the russian searching index btw.
I think this sounds promising https://betterweb.qwant.com/en/2024/11/08/ecosia-and-qwant-join-forces-to-develop-european-search-index/
Yeah but I think Kagi is a meta search engine, so at least the technical dependency on Yandex is limited 🤞
I also have high hope for the Ecosia x Qwant project but I don’t think there is any specific funding yet, so it’s just about sharing Qwant’s advancement on building its index 🫤 Let’s stop wasting all our money on AI and let’s build our own datacenters and raise enough funding for a few dozens more search engineers!
I assume they pay Yandex for access to their index. I was a bit interested in trying Kagi a year ago or something until I heard about that. I really don’t want any of my money to fuel the Russian war economy.
Want have been building their own index for many years, and I don’t think they rely that heavily on Bing anymore. They have some articles about it.
iirc Ecosia and Qwant were working on a search engine to substitute Google, or at least give it competition
Yeah that’s what was announced but sadly I don’t think any consequent investment has been made.
I’ve been using it for a week, haven’t got into a situation yet where I need to go back to Google to find something. Only negative I can say is that the search didn’t work a few times, but trying again fixed it.
I remember hearing about them trying with another european search engine to build up their own search indexer, so I’m hopeful!
I like the UI but atleast for me the search results were not relevant enough to use at work.
Any alternatives to Etsy and Kickstarter?
This is such a good question I feel like it could be its own post!
As far as I know about Etsy: sadly not :(
Etsy had direct competitors from Germany and France for example, but Etsy ended up buying them…
I read about that here in competitor section: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etsy
Hum… Good idea, but poor UX.
