I was wondering… how much does a credit company know if I pay with my cc? Do they know every detail of my lunch menu? If so, that does have something to do with privacy, I’m not very comfortable. If they just know the total amount I pay, then I wouldn’t mind too much, though.
They would only know things like location, time , amount. With this data you can build a pretty comprehensive profile about your whole life.
Good. “Fight against the cashless society!” is a bit weird motto, coming from Monero supporter, though…
If we could have physical Monero cash I would be for it. I am for any honest form of money, blockchain is just the easiest way to accomplish this without the state being able to stop it.
Someone doesn’t want to pay fees or taxes. Privacy is just a convenient excuse
Fees are no problem, they come along with valuable services. Taxes is theft and is extracted by the use of violence then the funds are stolen, wasted, and used to commit murder.
Holy shit… that went insane insanely fast.
I promote hardcore freedom in hopes that we may get at least some freedom. Just like the communists, they always go for starving and murdering everyone in hopes to get at least 40-60%
How would a guverment work without taxes? And if your argument is that a society works without a guverment, how would that work in regards to hospitals, firefighters, cops, social programs for the poor or homeless, etc?
The government should be extremely limited and funded by fees charged for useful services it provides, if needed a small sales tax could be instituted locally.
Rights need to be restored back to the individual so people can take care of themselves as needed in terms of defense and health care instead of sending 80% of their income to be wasted relying on some horrible and inefficient system. Once we wrangle the state back down to size people will have more than enough wealth to give to charities to help the poor.
on some horrible and inefficient system.
Boy, do I have news for you about private companies. Turns out government works tend to be more efficient, and less wasteful than private.
Turns out it does not. 50% of stolen money (tax revenue) is used to murder people around the world.
What companies are making those weapons and arms used in wars? Private companies, paid for with tax dollars.
Also, only 12% of the US federal budget went to the military in 2022. Social Security, Healthcare, and Welfare were all bigger parts of US federal spending, with medicare just being behind military spending.
They are not. These are communist owned, the communists running the state create war and steal money from the public then hand it over to their commie friends known as “weapons companies”, you have been duped.
Wrong, US military spending is >50% of all spending. https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/
You are living in a communist slave system.
The government should be extremely limited and funded by fees charged for useful services it provides, if needed a small sales tax could be instituted locally.
Congratulations you just described taxation.
Taxation is theft. I described voluntary payments for services rendered.
Yes on a societal scale that’s called taxation.
Taxes is not voluntary, threats of violence and violence is used to extract wealth from victims.
You have been indoctrinated that evil is OK on a “social scale”. You are a pawn dupe.
Taxes is theft
Okay, then leave civilised society.
Forcing people to pay up at gunpoint is not very civilized. Sounds like theft to me.
enjoying the services everybody paid while not wanting to contribute is the actual theft.
Stealing from others to provide yourself with “services” is theft. I do not want the state to decide what services I need and then steal the amount they think is needed.
The vast majority of money stolen is wasted or used for evil, a tiny fraction goes to “services”, which by the way are horrible.
😂 instance checks out
yup, no cowardly boot lickers here
Bro you’re quite literally boot licking a corporation commiting tax theft… Try harder or I dunno basic common sense if that fails.
Yea, communism is the most disgusting and degenerate ideology, I cant fathom how so many morons cling to this stupidity.
Lemme ask a question. Were your ancestors degenerate? How about the Bible, is the Bible degenerate? Where are we drawing these absurd moral lines.
Common sense, forcing people at gunpoint to do your will is immoral, degenerate and evil. This is what communism is about. Complete eradication of free will and only the will of the state be done.
God is the embodiment of morality, He asks us to do His will because it is the best thing for us, however He will never force you to do anything.
I really don’t like cash.
It’s just too vulnerable to theft and robbery.
I think Monero is better than cash. Would love to see that get more use in these kind of settings.
Cash still should always be an option. Many people do not have access to anything but cash.
I agree with the idea and I don’t have this reaction else where but when I see the cash only signs in food places it just makes me jump to tax evasion. Don’t know why it’s only food places that give me that feeling.
Taxes is immoral and based on violence and oppression, so evading it is the right thing to do.
Now you’re just trying to make people mad at you
No, just the usual result of speaking truth to slaves.
Man, OP’s comments in here are a ride. And I thought the tankies were bad
He’s one of the rare cases where this picture fits perfectly.
LOL, communism is so gay.
It seems that crypto bros have begun to raid lemmy recently, and for raid i mean that yhey just have been coming in big quantities, since the other day i was talking bad about crypto and got downvoted a lot, which is weird since i thought most people here didnt like it since the fiasco of past 3 years on crypto and blockchain, and i got a lot of comments deffending it too.
Many are coming from reddit (another communist hellhole). State worshipers hate crypto because it is a tool for freedom. It peacefully rips the power over money from state control and by extension banker control, since the bankers fully own the bloated communist state that we have in all developed nations today.
Dude bankers are not comunist, quite the contrary actually, and reddit are mostly lefty kids, the tankies where in lemmy all along, and you say crypto bros are comming from reddit but also say that they hate crypto too? Wtf. Im confused, you scare me, go away.
You are confused, most likely due to your surface level understanding on most topics. Crypto bros are morons who know nothing about crypto. They have some coins on an exchange and are hoping to cash out when it pumps again and go on a vacation.
You came in here, now go away.
Whait. I thought you liked crypto.
Again, the topic is not as simple as “I like crypto”.
Monero is a decentralize and private by default fair and honest cryto currency that acts exactly like cash in digital format. No one knows if you have it, how much you have, who sent it to you or where you sent it. It is basically the ultimate money. Most “crypto” is useless and scams.
Just like physical cash except it cannot be manipulated by communists and bankers.
By all means, go get scammed with crypto. Meanwhile the rest of us are living in the real world where not a single developed western nation is a communist state.
They all have income tax and a central bank, two primary pillars of communism.
You should stay away from crypto, with your level of intelligence you would lose it all in a week.
You realize that these peeps kinda dislike right libertarians already and being a dick doesn’t help, right?
I do not subscribe to right left and other BS labels. Either your a good honest person or a coward willing to do anything criminals with a badge or on TV tell you to do.
I don’t think you know what communism is, but you’re not going to listen to anyone that explains it are you?
As I said, you have a surface level understanding of communism. You know some general tropes and feel good half-baked intellectual points you absorbed while falling asleep in your communist infiltrated university general studies classes.
I have done deep research on the topic and at it’s core communism is a demonic system which infiltrates, corrupts, takes control, then enacts total dehumanization and murder.
This is absolutely hilarious, no matter what I say you will still reply.
Not only do you think central banks are not just a part of but one of the defining features of a classless, stateless, moneyless society, they’re the key indicator that a state is communist! Add to that that you confuse different people replying to you with each other (or assume everyone is the same person) and you get this wonderfully entertaining mix.
Tell me, what else have you done deep research on? Next you’re going to tell everyone that the earth is flat or something aren’t you.
And how do you think the road you use are paid? How do you think the military that protect you from communists states are paid?
By printing free money?
They are able to fund massive war crimes such as invasions and mass murder around the world by debasing the currency, drug trafficking and other criminal operations on top of theft known as taxes.
The military are the ones enforcing communist policies of the bankers on the rest of the world. The only countries that get invaded are ones without a central bank controlled by them.
Roads are paid for by fuel tax and tolls.
You’d probably suprised that tools and taxes are nowhere enough to pay for the enormous road infrastructure of the US. In avarage it pays for around half of it. The rest is funded by your taxes.
One of many sources: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/states-road-funding-2019/
As for the accusations of war crimes, mass murder, I unfortunately can only agree as those are well documented. If my memory is right, there is some drug dealing and other criminal scandals here and there, but nowhere enough to fund the behemoth that the US military is.
But I fail to see how debasing the currency would fund anything without creating a gigantic inflation. And by that I mean multiple times more that the current one which is mainly caused by the growing cost of energy. So no, i doubt it is how it get funded.
As for the “without central bank controlled by them”, of course they aren’t. The central bank is either controlled by the country themselves, or by a community of countries (example: EU central bank). So of course a country invaded by the US wouldn’t have a central bank controlled by the US. And so do all the country NOT invaded by the US. This argument make no sense.
The military answer to whomever is the head of state, not to banks. Problem is, of course, if said official is corrupted by the banks, if which case ot is the role of the press to investigate and expose said corruption. With credible evidences of course. So unless you can prove what you are saying with credible evidence, better say it as being an opinion rather than a fact.
Oh, and communism is, by definition, against the power of banks. So saying a bank is pushing a communist agenda is kinda… ironic. But that’s my opinion.
This would be illegal some places.
Yes, in communist hellholes.
lol that’s a tax evader, they save 20% and you save 10%, it’s the good old Italian tradition of “you don’t really need a receipt do you”
Great, taxes is theft.
You would not believe how many cash payments in the end customer food and service industry never make it to the books.
What’s next? “Save the Planet! Save Paper! Get 5% off if you don’t need an invoice!”
Good to hear. It means less money going to war criminals.
I’m not sure that has to do with privacy and more like “help us avoid paying income taxes.” No one denies that cash is completely anonymous, but that’s not the intent here. This is coming from a huge advocate for privacy, but to me this is a stretch.
They are trying to make people aware that technocratic communists are trying to ban cash, obviously.
Wish I was this oblivious
You are, that is why I am making you aware that technocratic communists want to control your life.
I hate those dang cryptobros and their communism!
Those dang boot licking NPC’s are even worse.
Wait you’re on monero.town. isn’t that a crypto? A cashless currency?
Wrong, Monero is digital cash.
Sounds like a cashless system
Wrong again, it is a digital cash system. Monero has all the properties of cash except it is digital instead of physical.
So moneri has all the properties of cash except the thing that makes money cash. Got it.
You either want a cash society with physical bills/coins or a digital society with Monero. Pick one.
I want both. Except the bills and coins should be actually backed by something of value not communist scam promises.
