• YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I feel so bad for those without college degrees or trade certifications. They are absolutely fucked going forward.

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      7 months ago

      I feel so bad for those without college degrees vast inheritances or trade certifications huge trust funds. They are absolutely fucked going forward.

      Fixed it.

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        7 months ago

        Do you think everyone is poor? With the right training or college degree a path to moderate wealth is quite open. Trade jobs are especially in high demand and bring in a huge income.

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          As of 2022, 33.9% of US HOUSEHOLDS made less than $50k/year. The median rent for the same year was $1874/month. That is $22,488/year. That is 44.976% of 50,000. 50,000 was the highest end of the range from 0 to 50,000. That means that ~⅓+ of the country have a very high probability of paying more than 45% of their annual wage in rent alone. Taking the low average from here, that is another $562/month out the window for utilities, or $6,744/year. So shelter and basic utilities for survival has us up to $29,232. For reference, that is 38% of the annual income for $75,000/year, the next line up in that chart. That is another 16%+ of households, which means that more than 50% of the US population is spending 38%+ of their annual income on housing and basic utilities, not even food. And just in case you are curious, that initial <=50k group is paying 58% of their income just to have heat, electricity, and housing to use them in. And to make sure that these numbers were not being biased by rents among income distributions, I was able to find raw data to check my estimates. They were actually low. Of the 45,221,844 households renting as of 2022, 10,492,596 of them make less than $50,000/year AND pay more than 40% of their annual income in rent. That is 47.2% of people making less than 50k/year and accounts for over 23% of all renters in the country.

          So, in long, yes, everyone is poor. And to think otherwise is to either buy in to blatant propaganda, functionally not understand statistics but still think you know better than those who do, or be disingenuous representing reality in a bid to mislead the public. Only you can answer which one that is.

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          7 months ago

          Trade jobs are especially in high demand and bring in a huge income

          Yeah dude, all those carpenters and plumbers are driving lambos.

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            7 months ago

            In Colorado, they are driving $100K+ trucks and live in huge houses. Trade jobs pay close to six figures here, with a median salary of $97,860 per year.

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                7 months ago

                You don’t know what a trade job is? Carpenter · Carpet installer · Construction worker · Drafter · Framer · Home inspector · Housecleaner · Mason · Mechanical installer.

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                  I work in the trades. That’s how I know carpenters don’t make a hundred grand a year you fucking idiot. Or plumbers, or drywallers, or housecleaners.

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    We were over at my mother’s yesterday and we were talking about grocery prices and my mother asked my wife how much we paid for milk and my wife says she doesn’t look, because it doesn’t matter when we need milk regardless. I don’t look either. It’s the same with gas prices. I hear they’ve gone way down, but I’ve honestly stopped looking. What difference does it make what a gallon of gas costs when I need that gallon no matter what it costs?

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        We don’t “need” milk in the sense that it is not necessary for our survival. We need milk in order to keep eating and drinking the things we enjoy eating and drinking. And I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect milk in your tea and your cereal.

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          No, you do need milk. Don’t let the capitalist propaganda engine tell you that comfort and contentment are not necessary for life. To even insinuate that having milk to put on cereal or in tea is some sort of luxury or indulgence that you should be able to cut out is lunacy. Human beings need comfort as much as we need socialization for emotional and mental maintenance. We need fun and enjoyment. That is why even in modern hunter-gatherer tribes the workload is less than half of ours and they all have full bellies and spend the rest of their time pursuing leisure activities and spending time with their family/community.

          (not accusing the person you are replying to, they are a victim too)

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            Capitalist propaganda engine? Do you hear yourself? Say those words out loud and tell me your not a looney conspiracy theorist. What propaganda? XD

            Is it propaganda to say most mammals do not keep drinking milk after they’re babies? Is it also propaganda to say things like broccoli, kale, nuts and seeds are calcium alternatives? Is it propaganda that the vitamin D can be obtained from fish, sunlight, and liver? Explain what this propaganda machine is. 🤡

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              Capitalist propaganda tells us that we don’t “need” anything and that all of those things you’re talking about are luxuries. Food? That’s a luxury. Clothes? That’s a luxury too. Water? You better believe you don’t need that, you selfish little piggie!

              (also, tbh they didn’t specify the milk has to come from an animal. plant milk is milk!)