we could have had Bernie, except Warren was a backstabbing scumbag. oh well. we got what we deserved: suffering.
If you mean her rhetoric, she was just playing the game of politics, and I don’t fault her for that.
If you mean not dropping out after it was apparent the moderate candidates were going to coalesce behind Biden, yeah, fuck her.
Would dropping out have done anything? Biden got over 50% of the vote. Burnie and Warren together were only around 33%.
A lot of issues come with the fact that success tends to snowball in primaries, hence why candidates always try to eke out early wins in Iowa, and why Super Tuesday is so important.
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/
This right here, I lived in Georgia in 2020, our votes in the general mattered quite a bit, but by the time we held our primaries it was clear Biden was going to be the nominee even if Bernie won Ga. So my only voice was “not fascism”
Not sure how long “not fascism” will be on the ticket at this rate
That backstab is why I now vote against her in her Senate primaries. It’s deeply frustrating, because until that point, I really did think she was one of the best possibilities for being a sane and effective presidential candidate.
Who are you voting for, then? It seems that she is running unopposed in the primary and she is such a sure winner for the general election that other parties are probably not going to run serious candidates but settle for someone just campaigning for the attention.
Iirc I left it blank in the most recent primary where she was on the ballot. Still voted for her in the general because the other candidate was Republican.
To be clear, I fucking detest the two-party system that forces me to employ such voting calculus.
I would still vote for her, given her voting record and policy proposals she supports/ed, but I will say the $40 I donated to her campaign are the only political donations I’ve ever regretted making.
I could not have a beer with her, either I’d be thinking about bringing it up the entire time. Actually, I would have a beer with her just to ask her what the hell happened? How does she feel about her legacy? What did it feel like to be the OG Fetterman?
Honestly at this point I would suck it up and vote for her too u_u
The Democrat party ironically won’t have any reason to actually compete UNTIL the GOP dies completely because they would be forced to confront their internal progressive vs chud factions, which would split into their own two new political parties.
In the general? Absolutely. But that’s a low bar.
If she was the most compelling primary candidate? Also, likely. Also, still a low bar.
But as an expression of my deep and fundamental dissatisfaction with how she kow-towed to the DNC leadership, I don’t plan on supporting her tenure in the senate.
Since 1993, with the exception of Obama (1961), every president was born either 1942 or 1946. Sanderes and Warren are both born in the 1940’s too.
Just stop voting fossils goddammit.
That’s easy to say but when there are laws in place to protect the entrenched two-party system and they’re choosing who you get to vote for, it should be plainly obvious that we’re just being given an illusion of choice. Look at Trump’s term, then at Biden’s. America as a whole didn’t really change. The talking heads sqwaked about different topics but ultimately we’re no different as a country 8 years later. When one side gets in, the rich get tax breaks. When the opposite side gets in, the rich tax the poor harder at the register. Either way, their wealth increases and they become richer. The only way forward should be sweeping, drastic change which is often the platform both parties run on, yet neither are never held accountable for failure to deliver. The fact that we live in a country as vast as we do and yet somehow only have the choice between two shit sandwiches is utterly ridiculous. I’m tired of eating shit!
The left is constantly punching itself in the dick with purity tests. You’d think they’d realize that’s half the reason why they’re constantly spinning their wheels. Liz would be the most left wing president since FDR
Wait, liberals have been saying that Biden is the “most left wing president since FDR” for his entire term. Have you all changed your mind?
Biden is a Reagan Republican, and everyone knows it. He’s a better choice than a literal manchild Nazi.
Warren isn’t the president, smart guy
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, “smart guy”. So what does it mean to be “the most left wing president since FDR”? If Biden already is that, what does it matter if Warren would be?
Because Warren would have been better…? Your attempt at bad faith questions don’t even make sense. If Warren had been elected, she would have been to the left of Biden, who (according to whatever your source is) is the most left wing since FDR. So how much more so would Warren have been. I think all the dialectics are rotting your brain, comrade.
But according to the comment I replied to, she wouldn’t be “better”, she would be the same. That’s my question, which I don’t get how that’s bad faith. If she’s “the most left wing since FDR”, but Biden is already that, in what way is that an argument for her? What point is the comment making? You’re not explaining anything.
You’re the only one saying she would be the same.
I didn’t say anything. I asked for clarification on liberals’ general sentiments.
She would be better and more to the left than Biden. And I consider myself a part of the left. Fred Hampton wasn’t killed because he was a leftist, he was killed because he was a big tent leftist.
My point is the perfect candidate doesn’t exist and we should fight for the progress we can get with politicians that can win in the current deeply flawed system we are forced to operate in.
Fred Hampton was killed because he was a communist, not a “leftist”. His FBI file, the statements from the police, and the statements from officials involved all explicitly blame his communist sentiment and work with communist orgs for the police state’s…attention…on him. He didn’t advocate for a liberal national party. Do not insult him by misrepresenting him or his death.
But okay. That phrase just doesn’t separate her from Biden when that’s what the tweet is about.
Lol only conservatives have made the ridiculous statement that “Biden is the most left wing president.” That is hilarious though.
Have they? I’ve never heard anyone say that.
Nixon was the most left wing president of my lifetime. Socially left doesn’t make one a leftist.
I haven’t heard a single instance of this actually occuring.
I’d bet my last dollar you haven’t either.
Incredibly dumb and out of touch. Just wow.
Oh yeah well y’all could have elected me for mayor of poop city in 2003 and instead I only got 5 votes. Lost by 2.
This hexbear user is not wrong tho, america’s left dosn’t really serve the people, they team up with the richs.
There is no left. Only center right and far right
The left doesn’t routinely show up to elections like the right does any more.
Yep because there’s no true left in usa
There is. It’s called the Green Party. People just don’t know about it.
Well then why would anyone cater to your interests lol
When there was a mobilized left, politicians were afraid to vote for certain policies since it could mean they would lose an election.
It is now seen as a fickle group that cannot be guaranteed to show up at elections.
Yep, if you being pissed off or not makes no difference why would anyone care.
