The country will imprison or publicly flog 60 other suspected homosexuals.
Great now let’s marginalize another community, next will be blind or deaf? And tie it to another nations Americans aren’t supposed to support.
greg abbott and ron desantis taking notes
It’s the Houthis in Yemen, not “Yemen”.
Grazia Careccia, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa Deputy Director, called the planned executions “gruesome public spectacles” designed to spread fear among LGBTQ+ people and the Yemeni population at large.
Yet when Biden bombs the Houthis, it’s “violation of international law” because the Houthis are the “de facto government of Yemen”. Or at least that was the consensus on Lemmy a couple months back.
Like, I don’t really care. Fuck the Houthis and fuck Israel. But it’s interesting how the Lemmy hivemind picks and chooses who is “the legitimate Yemeni government” based on their personal values.
What. Er, I have no idea what the Lemmy “hivemind” thinks on this (and was more or less taking a summer break from Kbin when the US started bombing the Middle East again).
IMO there’s more than one consensus in news Lemmy depending if you’re on .ml or .world and what time of day it is.I was just pointing out that 1) it’s the Houthis, and 2) they seem to be trying to tighten their grip on the population.
These seem like relevant points given the civil war.
For the record I think the situation in Yemen is a travesty and, being super old, I have spent the past 20 years angrily watching as the US drone-bombed Yemeni civilians and ignored warnings that this radicalises people. Biden bombing now is the US military industrial economy business as usual.
I like anyone who is trying to stop a genocide.
@sub_ubi “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”?
I like the act of trying to stop a genocide. That doesn’t make me like other actions by whoever is performing the act.
Most people react to things emotionally, just as you’re doing. So many people will think as you do, “fuck Israel” and this leads people to think that every group in Iran’s “Axis of Resistance” are the good guys. Therefore attacking the Houthis (a part of the Axis of Resistance) is wrong.
Rationalizations that stem from emotion results in some very strange outcomes.
Even more interesting how you are only capable of seeing things in black and white. Stoning people is bad. Bombing people is also bad.
Well there you have it… there’s no way it will be possible to bomb them back to the stone Age.
I forget, aren’t we supposed to be cheering for the Houthis? I thought that was the new cool thing to be doing.
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Critical support. They are useful allies even if they do some fucked up things
Source?
Also, presumably they’re more concerned about a growing conflagration in the Middle East rather than Houthis in particular dying…
How does a small group doing a thing constitute it being the “new cool thing to be doing?”
Support them fighting for Palestinian cause: Yes
Support houthis persecuring LGBT: No
I guess I’ve never been able to figure out which group of Iranian-backed terrorists are the good guys.
When you support the Houthis you support the stoning of homosexuals.
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No.
And if you say it again it’ll still be wrong.
When you support the Houthis you support the stoning of homosexuals.
Oh wow, this really woke me up! I actually don’t support the stoning of homosexuals, I’m not a fucking barbarian.
What I support is the bombing of homosexuals so that’s why I support Joe Biden. For bombing Yemeni homosexuals to death, along with Yemeni women and children and Yemeni everyone else. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to the truth.
A particularly group being right on one issue and wrong on another seems too hard for certain people to grasp.
Excuse me but “Supporting Palestinian cause”!? They are attacking random trade ships in order to grow political clout and nothing more. Thats like saying because Russia is attacking Ukraine Italy gets to go attack random trade vessels in the Mediterranean. You guys are unable to think beyond headlines.
They are attacking random trade ships in order to grow political clout and nothing more
Source?
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If your take-away is “this is why it was justified to genocide them” instead of “this is what happens when you genocide them” you’re a monster.
There’s no casual link here. They’re just assholes, all of them.
Your comment makes no sense, how is them stoning gays justifying (or being caused by) a genocide? The Ukrainians arent turning around and stoning their gay population because Russia is invading, its a really nonsensical thing to say.
Have people already forgot the “war” in Yemen?
I think “these are the monsters worthy of being genocided” fits better. Except for the fact that the Houthi’s aren’t being genocided. They’re being retaliated against, because they chose to attack other people. Really is simple as that.
This might be the most disturbing news I’ve read this week. Crucifixion is brutal. People are monsters.
Imagine stoning people to death for victimless “crimes” and thinking you’re the good guys.
I’m pretty sure a similar though goes through the heads of every mass murderer.
imagine a world more complicated than a good guys/bad guys dichotomy
There are very few good guys, but about people crucifying people it’s usually safe to say that they are bad.
There are very few good guys, but about people crucifying people it’s usually safe to say that they are bad.
The effects of religion. Moral is tied to obsolete ideals and logic is nowhere to be found.
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Yes, the US was supplying weapons (via Saudi Arabia) to the government of Yemen that was fighting these fucking monsters.
But relax, that war is in a ceasefire now, so everything is fine now, right?
The world may not be the black and white simple thing you’ve been led to believe. Most of the time, if you do something, bad things will happen. If you do nothing, bad things will happen. Most of the time any course of action or inaction will have bad results. There are evil people in the world, and the US is not actually the source of all evil in the world. People have been coming up with reasons to do evil shit long before the US existed.
If the US didn’t supply arms to the Yemeni government would things have turned out better? There’s no way to know that. The only thing that’s certain is the Houthis are horrible monsters.
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This is very unfortunate.
But surely this is because Arabs are inherently savage and backwards, and has nothing to do with all the wars and bombs that created the worse humanitarian crisis of the century. (sarcasm)
the worse humanitarian crisis of the century
Comparing tragedies doesn’t really make sense but you should look up the Tigray Way before making that claim
Here’s a source for the claim if you’re interested. Google will reveal mods.
That’s some serious triple summersault mental gymnastics to defend the Houthis. Might as well go back and start with the cooling of the earth 4 billion years ago if you really want to know the culprit.
Oh suddenly we hear about this what a coincidence. I’m incredibly queer and I do not think genocide is ever justified nor is retaliation to economically hindering genocide.
Did you know if you genocide a population, the queer people in that population die horrifically too?
Essentially, fuck all you commenters, don’t fucking use our identity to justify your evil when the reality is that you feel bad for going on gay bashing runs in the 90s. You weren’t a good person then and you aren’t a good person now that you diverted your hatred.
Every queer i know online and offline stands with Palestine. No more fucking death. No more videos of kids being executed to end up on my feed.
seconding as a trans person. everyone i know supports palestine to the hilt. you cannot change the situation on the ground for lgbt people in yemen with war and bombs.
This is not about that. This is about Houthi’s sentencing people to crucification and other extreme forms of punishment.
They will bring this form of punishment wherever they go.
But you can overlook this if you so choose in order to make your political point regarding a different subject.
Ah yes, because Houthis stopped a single ship with arms headed to Israel.
They haven’t. The arms for them don’t even go through there.
You know what does? International shipping. Something the whole world, mainly weak import economies who NEED this stuff in the ships
This! One of the most disgusting trends I’ve seen are people misappropriating queer symbology to try to queerwash their genocide of Palestinians. They don’t care about us anymore than they care about the children they’re murdering.
You really think the Houthis care about Palestine??? Because they told you that’s why they are attacking random trade vessels in the red sea?
Quote me saying that. I didn’t.
Nice bait, though. Someone who’s not paying attention to the conversation might have been fooled by it.
Hey, as one of those people who used slurs in the past, I’m sorry. I wasn’t a good person, I followed the crowd. I’m trying hard to be a better person. You don’t have to accept me or my apology. I just want to put it out there. Sorry you and your community was hurt by people like me.
This is big of you. Props on growing as a person and admitting fault. We should always welcome new allies in the fight for equality.
It sounds to me like you’re a good person. The people they’re talking about are the ones who may have stopped hating, say, gay people – but who have redirected their bigotry toward other marginalized groups like trans people or Palestinians.
In my opinion, there’s effectively no such thing as a good or bad person – it’s the words and actions that count. No matter what you’ve done in the past, that’s over now.
It’s really extreme to look the other way when members of your own group are being killed in horrific ways just so that you can continue to be a part of a fascist cause.
I mean looking the other way when Jews are murdered is kinda par for the course for fascists. But with most people there’s a realization when people of their own group are getting brutally murdered.
It’s also a crazy disconnect from reality when you think reporting on something that is actually happening is a coincidence. Or do you think Amnesty International is part of some international Jewish conspiracy that the antisemitic types go on and on about?
No more videos of kids being executed to end up on my feed.
Maybe you should make adjustments to your feed. It seems to be having a psychological impact on you. This may be the intention of those that are putting these things on your feed. I mean you’ve gotten to the point where you’re looking the other way about the brutality occurring in Yemen because it doesn’t fit the narrative you want, why do you feel it’s important to not look the other way on the brutality of war? What’s the criteria you’re using to determine which horrific acts you look the other way on?
Seems you’re choosing to only look at some brutality to maintain a simple narrative to keep yourself angry.
Do you think that your concern trolling is going to help the general atmosphere of trusting others with mental health, or did you just really want to win an argumentative point?
All official death toll numbers make it clear which is the fascist government (not people, government). There’s a local suburb near me known for gay hate murders, would you say that the government should bomb it?
Or I’ll put it even simpler Queers, Jewish people, Palestinians, Yemenis, Houthis, White people, Prisoners, Civilians and Soldiers and all other human beings all have equal value in their lives and if you can’t account for that in your argument then that’s a bias. If you disagree then frankly you can go fuck yourself until you become a better person. That’s what I believe, why don’t you?
So, you get to decide why people find this abhorrent. And then because of the strawman you handed all these people you then clutch your pearls and call them impure.
But I’m sure the prosecuted people sentenced to an objectively evil form of punishment will be glad you are able to see past that because the purpetrators of these evil deeds support a cause you think is more valuable than their lives.
With friends like you…
But you go ahead, support your cause, alienate people because they are not pure enough. But don’t wonder why the silent majority stays silent. They fear being targeted for not being pure enough for the likes of you and singled out for a struggle session.
Edit, the reason for the punishment is bad enough, the form of punishment combined with the reason causes me to root for more action against the Houthi’s.
It looks like our identity is only useful to them for warmongering. God forbid we get healthcare, workplace protections, anything. Instead all we see are our names used to inspire wars we want no part in against countries where our governments literally fund their reactionary parties.
It’s a self-fulfilling cycle, they use us as the symbols and the reason for their destruction and then the orphans left behind mistake their enemy as queer people around the planet and then the West uses us as their casus belli again until they’ve killed every last one. They will never give them a chance to progress socially because the goal is total genocide.
Fuck every warhawk in this comment section using us as their excuse for POINTLESS FUCKING WARS.
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The Houthis have NOTHING TO DO WITH PALESTINE. What are you guys on? They are randomly disrupting trade routes in the red sea for political clout and nothing more. Just because they claim it’s to help their Palestinian allies does not give them any agency. That would be like Spain randomly attacking fleets in the Mediterranean to support Ukraine.
Some people just need to vent even though their worldview is based on a faulty foundation
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The Wahabbi interpretation of Sharia law in Saudi Arabia maintains that acts of homosexuality should be disciplined in the same way as adultery - with death by stoning. Homosexuality or nonconformant gender expression can also be punished by corporal punishment, flogging, imprisonment or forced ‘conversion’ therapy.
This isn’t unusual in the Middle East. There’s a number of reasons for this (mostly based on colonialism and imperialism by more powerful players), but this is unfortunately the status quo.
Are you saying the medieval punishments, state actors dole out in the middle-east are somehow the west’s fault?
Your whole post reads as “it is, what it is” and I find it repugnant.
I would submit there is a mountain of stuff we should not find acceptable, condemn and fight against (figuratively and literally) and the importance of all these subjects is not all the same. It’s probably more pyramid shaped. With genocide at the top, closely followed by things like crucifixion and other (state/state sanctioned on individual) corporal punishments.
This whole punishment has nothing to do with the wider middle east conflict, and as human beings we should damn we’ll have a strong opinion on the matter.
And the fact that Houthi’s claim to help the Palestinians by attacking some shipping is a lie some people are too eager to believe. They are terrorists, religious zealots and murderers. The fact they somehow seem to garner sympathy from willfull idiots only strengthens their ability to sucker more feebleminded people into their recruitment funnel to commit more atrocities in the name of their beliefs.
Are you saying there was no stoning of gay people before the Brits arrived? What the hell does “colonialism” have to do with Sharia law that was implement over 600 years ago? I swear “colonialism” is the new popular word of the day on my bingo card.
Are there any reputable journalistic sources that are reporting on it as well?
All the sources that I can find are Jerusalem Post, Amnesty International, QNews, and the like.
It’s weird that AP, BBC, Al Jazeera, etc. are all silent when this is pretty big news if true.
Crazy how suddenly all these accusations against Yemen without any evidence or sources are reaching the front page.
Can’t have anything to do with them opposing israel’s Genocide right?
Thanks for the report. Enough people are pushing back in the comments that I’m of a mind to leave this post up, despite the article being a garbage consent-manufacturing one. Imperialist pinkwashing is vile.
This is what manufacturing consent looks like. Reminds me a lot of 2001 and 2002 during the war on Afghanistan and preparing for a war on Iraq.
The West’s media is running overdrive to demonize Yemenis.
Citation needed
They shouldn’t give the GOP any more ideas
The GOP surely inspired some part of this.
Barbarians.
If you want to know why I’m an atheist.
What kind of entity has 3 different sects of people who all believe this is what it wants?
Religion is a cancer.
Atheists can hate gays too.
Don’t blame the structure for the monsters that abuse it.
You mean the structure that’s completely monster-made?
The structure was built by monsters. This is the intended use of religion.
With all the respect i can muster, you are the one misunderstanding religion’s purpose.
They are not.
If organized religion ever helps humanity at all it is through the good people it inspires to help, the good part of humanity it brings out. The people who focus on that aspect of its tenets would always be good.
But the book(s) and the men who wrote them are as full of power and venom as any other book, and the very idea that one is special by birth is disgusting and small. It is a venal thought shared by the religious and nazis alike.
The cancer is organized religion. There is no bad apple within its core to root, it is itself the problem.
and while the world will never be rid of its mind stifling influence, i will never stop dreaming of the shining day we grow beyond it
You can treat cancer, religion is a parasite that needs to be wiped off the face of the planet.
You can treat cancer but you cannot get rid of it completely. Even treated, cancer is still cancer and could still potentially kill you. Unless, you are able to completely remove it’s existence.
Re-read your comment.
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