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    It’s going to be this way every election, ain’t it? Basically two year election cycle of Trump once again running, all the fears of him winning, then he looses, and we get next 4 years of him talking shit and “raising concerns”.

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      I really don’t see him running in 2028. I don’t think his health/Republican money would both line up and support that

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      It’s not about Trump (the dude may not even live much longer, he looks awful).

      It’s about all the people who support his values and way of thinking and use him as a distraction while they erode democratic rights and processes. America is undergoing a tremendous divide which may lead to the federation coming apart and individual states breaking away. That’s what’s worrying the rest of us, not the POTUS making a fool of himself on TV.

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    When can I, an international with an interest in the US election, commit money to a political party? Or do I need to be a corporation?

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    Of all the things libs think is a sales pitch to vote for Biden “you have to vote for Biden or America’s global influence will decrease and other countries will realize were an unreliable and antagonistic ally” is probably their worst

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        Biden only passively wants to kill us and is willing to look the other way when states do it, youre right.

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                Notice how you haven’t addressed how dems are any different from reps if both are okay with a genocide so long as they themselves are fine.

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                  Is your Russian-English translator failing or did you not read the part where I said that for one side I have to fear for queer folk in the states and in other countries and for the other side I don’t have to worry about at least some of them.

                  Its so telling how you use queer people to further your own little agenda here. Its not just queer people being targeted in Gaza, its all of them.

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        No queer friends in Palestine, I’m guessing. But even if only people in the US deserve life, Biden isn’t doing anything to stop LGBQT rights from being dismantled. It will get worse even if Biden wins a second term. If Democrats didn’t codify Roe v. Wade when they had the chance, why do you think they will do anything concrete to protect them, when they can use their fear to scare them into voting for them.

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          Yup, the same dynamic as the right and immigration. More to gain using as a political football instead. The tactics are from the same, cynical playbook, and partisans are happy to play along when it’s their team.

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      it matters. one is an accelerationist the other is a conservative of the status quo. neither are going to improve anything but one will try his most to destroy any confidence.

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        one will try his most to destroy any confidence

        Talking about Biden? You know, the one currently supporting a genocide? I’d think that counts as trying “his most to destroy any confidence”

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          Biden never implied there was a chance the US would abandon its NATO allies in case of a war, Trump did.

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            Pro-Trump argument? Didn’t expect that here. Regardless, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself and limit their ability to commit their imperialism in the middle-east (and across the world), but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like the US allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War.

            Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He isn’t any better than Biden.

            The only way the US would improve is if a leftist org took power over this thinly-veiled imperialist oligarch altogether from outside its political system which is designed to prevent leftward movement in the first place.

            Also uh, I don’t think US’s ongoing genocide victims care about that.

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              Since when did the CIA assassinate white conservative leaders? What a delusional comment. Most of the people in the CIA are Trump cultists. They won’t do shit to Trump no matter what decisions he makes. He already spent his last term undermining nato and other institutions, and nothing happened to him.

              Always have to laugh at the tankies who act like Russia and China are the good guys somehow, in spite of all their very obvious imperialism and despotism. The US Russia and China are all the same thing, a bunch of rich fucks looking out for themselves.

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                Since when did the CIA assassinate white conservative leaders?

                They would if they threatened the imperial core’s ability to commit their imperialism.

                The US Russia and China are all the same thing

                What an obnoxious statement lol. Only the US (and its allies) are built from centuries of capitalist colonialism, and are greatly benefiting from ongoing neocolonialism of those same former colonies through the IMF and World Bank. They are also the ones waging countless wars across the middle east, coup’ing Africa’s governments, and keeping them unstable and unable to unite and stand on their own.

                China, and even modern capitalist Russia, for all their flaws, are not even comparable to the sheer amount of suffering the US has inflicted, and continues to do so. There’s a reason songs like this are common across the developing world. No one outside the imperial core sees China or Russia as equivalent to the US, for good reason.

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          germany is doing the same. so i guess confidence isn’t being destroyed between those two. but is was talking about the american isolationist trump.

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      It matters hugely even internationally. If you’re female it would I’m guessing based on the fact that want to ban abortions. As a guy, I wouldn’t want to be forced to be stuck with a kid.

      Are you not paying attention? I’m Australian, and the difference is totally night and day.

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        And as a human being, I wouldn’t really want to support a zionazi that’s funding a genocide.

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          I can’t speak for that.

          But sure…

          • The rapist who is VERY clear about wanting to be a dictator, is EXACTLY the same as the other guy.
          • The rapist with over 30500 known public lies in 4 years… Yeah… Definitely the same.
          • The guy who loves other dictators who support genocides? Obviously the same
          • Oh, yeah, lets not forget about the guy who killed hundreds of thousands of american’s, and even more worldwide through misinformation during covid. Here in Australia, there are STILL people who were influenced by people like him.
          • Also, I forgot about the guy who tried to overthrow the election (and it was obvious leading up to it)
          • Lets also not forget about the guy who when found guilty in court is considered so mafia-esque, that the judge told jurors that he STRONGLY recommended people didn’t disclose they were on the jury
          • This “businessman” cycles through more lawyers than a supreme court, and his own lawyers say they can’t control him.
          • The guy who likely compromised the security of millions of US, Australian and other soldiers by taking classified documents for his own benefit

          Joe Biden? When his son was found guilty, he let justice take course.

          It would be good to see Michelle Obama stand though instead of him, but, Trump is VERY dangerous. He was willing to start a civil war to get back power, and the only reason he hasn’t gotten into any wars, is because he is likely giving other dictators everything they want (including top secret information)

          The only reason we know 100% that he is giving away top secret information, is because of audio recordings, and a billionaire in Australia said directly that was the case.

          Joe Biden has done none of that stuff. The judge didn’t need to warn jurors on his son’s trial that they could be targeted if they diclosed they were on it

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        For the first one, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself, but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like they allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War. Unfortunately it’ll never happen.

        For the second… you’re currently watching a zionazi president bypassing congress to hasten the Palestinian genocide.

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      Geopolitics is actually one of those examples where it does matter quite a lot. All the planning world leaders does gets thrown out the window when someone new comes on to the stage. For example I don’t think anyone could have predicted America being nice to NK under Trump.

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    Why the heck and when was the United States considered reliable?

    Reliable in what context?

    Oh I see defensively reliable.

    It might not make a lot of sense to overwhelmingly rely your national defense on a partner separated by an ocean.

    I’m glad the EU is taking more responsibility for their own defense, and I’m also surprised to see so many European leaders acting surprised that they should have to, or the idea of a European defense as a novel idea.

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      The US was considered reliable because, until Trump, both parties had identical foreign policy.

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        No they didn’t.

        At least, I can’t think of examples of democrats and Republicans having similar foreign policy, outlook strategy or execution.

        You mean specifically in the interests of defending Europe?

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          As an outsider, the US was always very reliable for exporting unfettered liberal capitalism, and exporting “democracy”, whatever the party in power.

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            I can see how the broader export of capitalism could make the us political scene look homogeneous from outside the fish bowl, thanks

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              Not sure if that’s sarcasm or ppl down voted you for nothing 🤷‍♂️

              Ofc outside of the USA, internal politics is not our focus, even though we see regressive policies hurting the population (eg. Abortion). How the us handles foreign policy (not just war and conflicts), it pretty obviously only has its capitalist overlords best interest in mind.

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                That was a genuine response.

                Down votes or upvotes whatever votes.

                I’m trying to relate and understand.

                I don’t agree with the simplified absolutist perspective you’ve put forth, but I understand how you could come to that conclusion and how it would circumstantially appear to be a uniquely American endeavor.

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                  I agree that’s not a full view of America, but for the general population that only hears about the USA through conventional media, I’d say that’s what most people will see and remember.

                  And of course this is only my perspective from my country and my neighbors may very well have a different outlook.

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            the worse political export the us has is the bi-party system. it does way more damage to any political system than the liberal capitalism. lobbying comes a close second.

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            There’s more than two parties to choose from. There’s only two realistic choices because as a population you all choose to make it that way.

            Don’t get me wrong, the US isn’t alone here. We have the same problem here in the UK. I usually vote for a third party that more aligns with my own views, not one of the main two, and people tell me I “wasted my vote”. My response is: Did I waste my vote, or did you?

            Simpsons of course parodied the situation best when the two aliens both ran for president.

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              There’s more than two parties to choose from.

              Technically true, but there is no real choice. The US doesn’t have a proportional voting system but uses first past the post voting. This by default will result in a two party system. If one party splits up or loses voter to a third party, the remaining party will utterly dominate the politics until one of the other party comes up on top again.

              Sane countries do have a proportional voting system which allows several parties to flourish.

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                That’s the point I (and the simpsons) is making though. If people didn’t vote for one of the two parties because “anything else is a wasted vote”. Even with FPTP you’d get a more varies result, at the very least in the upper/lower houses.

                But that doesn’t happen, and that’s how they have us all by the balls.

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                  But that doesn’t happen, and that’s how they have us all by the balls.

                  Well that’s very easy when one party openly is working to destroy the whole democratic system.

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      Henry Kissinger

      How I’m missing yer

      You’re the Doctor of my dreams

      With your crinkly hair and your glassy stare

      And your machiavellian schemes

      I know they say that you are very vain

      And short and fat and pushy but at least you’re not insane

      Henry Kissinger

      How I’m missing yer

      And wishing you were here

      Henry Kissinger

      How I’m missing yer

      You’re so chubby and so neat

      With your funny clothes and your squishy nose

      You’re like a German parakeet

      All right so people say that you don’t care

      But you’ve got nicer legs than Hitler

      And bigger tits than Cher

      Henry Kissinger

      How I’m missing yer

      And wishing you were here

    • Kissinger’s more of an egoist of image than a realist about it

      Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    With a divided electorate and gridlock in Congress, the next American president could easily become consumed by manifold challenges at home — before even beginning to address flashpoints around the world, from Ukraine to the Middle East.

    In campaign speeches, Trump remains skeptical of organizations such as NATO, often lamenting the billions the U.S. spends on the military alliance whose support has been critical to Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion.

    Politics at University College London, said that whoever wins the presidential race, the direction of travel will be the same – toward a multipolar planet in which the United States is no longer “the indisputable world superpower.”

    Germany is the second-largest donor of military aid to Kyiv, behind the U.S., but Scholz recently told German weekly Die Zeit that the country couldn’t fill any gap on its own if “the U.S.A. ceased to be a supporter.”

    China, where leaders’ initial warmth toward Trump soured into tit-for-tat tariffs and rising tensions, little changed under Biden, who continued his predecessor’s tough stance toward the United States’ strategic rival.

    Associated Press writers Jiwon Song in Seoul, South Korea, Kirsten Grieshaber in Berlin, Dasha Litvinova in Tallinn, Estonia, Suzan Fraser in Ankara, Turkey, Nomaan Merchant in Washington, and Jill Colvin and Michelle Price in New York contributed to this story.


    The original article contains 1,315 words, the summary contains 216 words. Saved 84%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Oh it doesn’t matter man, Trump, Biden’s draugr, Kamala, not important. This goose is cooked and you’re all cooked with it if you don’t sever ties. We saw what happened to Europe’s oil, energy and manufacturing sector with just a couple well-placed underwater bombs. The American bourgeois state will eat all of it’s “allies” like Saturn and his children if it means staving off profit collapse for one more quarter .

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    The first Trump administration stress-tested the bonds between the U.S. and its allies, particularly in Europe. Trump derided the leaders of some friendly nations, including Germany’s Angela Merkel and Britain’s Theresa May, while praising authoritarians such as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian leader Vladimir Putin. He has called China’s Xi Jinping “brilliant” and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán “a great leader.”

    This is so stupid. Trump was the one who started a trade war with China. Him praising Xi doesn’t mean shit.

    Secondly, despite claiming to be anti-west, Erdogan and Orban are both pro-West allies and will fall in line under pressure. Both countries are NATO members too btw. Why is such a democratic organization like NATO having “authoritarian” countries as members?

    Also why is there no mention of Modi? Both Biden and Trump have been more than friendly with him.

    Trump’s Israel policy is no different. He is more belligerent towards Iran.

    In campaign speeches, Trump remains skeptical of organizations such as NATO, often lamenting the billions the U.S. spends on the military alliance whose support has been critical to Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion.

    Rhetoric and actions are entirely different. Trump knows very well that Ukraine War is ultimately beneficial for the U.S. and the MIC.

    Another thing to keep in mind, U.S. is NATO, without the U.S there is no NATO.

    He warned: “We must realize that the EU cannot be an economic and civilizational giant and a dwarf when it comes to defense, because the world has changed.”

    That has been the status of Europe since end of cold war, a puppet of American capitalism, nothing more. And nothing will change unless there is a socialist revolution or something.

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      Wait what now? Trump knows something about foreign policy? Not a chance, bub. Trump doesn’t know squat. Other than being an effective distraction from his handlers so the ones actually pulling the strings can stay out of the public’s general awareness. But, then again, he’s stupid enough to think he matters, so I doubt he even realizes he has handlers.

      Trump doesn’t do strategy. Period. He’s dumber than a stack of bricks, and you know it. So, no, there is absolutely no ulterior motive. There is no plan. He has no ability to think ahead. He has never had to take any actual responsibility, and is therefore utterly incapable of anything other rash impulsive stupidity.

      Giving that loser any credit just makes you sound like a complete idiot. Just don’t. Please.