• SuperDuper@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    “Citizen, I can assure you that climate change is completely your fault for leaving the bathroom light on the other day. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have a mountain to frack.”

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      9 months ago

      Yeah because they do fracking to simply burn fossil fuels because they’re bad bad evil ppl. Not because there’s like, a huge demand for them.

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          I’m not denying that. But “big oil” provides for personal needs. It’s not like private consumption and hydrocarbon extraction are two completely separate concepts. One exists to feed the other. If we really want to do something about this clusterfuck we need to be ready to change our personal consumption patterns; total depersonalization of responsibility is ridiculous and naive.

          • Arcity 🇵🇸🇺🇦@feddit.nl
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            Ah yes, buy less advocado toast and buy an electric car that is almost as poluting with our current production and infrastructure. No you can’t out buy the oil industry. If we are talking meat consumption than less we do have more say in scaling it back.

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    9 months ago

    Yeah, big oil needs to be accountable for consuming so much oil and and making so much demand. /s

    Carbon footprints are valuable for measuring national and product emissions. Which is related to consumer demand. Which is related to investments in supply. It’s all part of the same thing. Carbon footprints weren’t invented for the specific purpose of evaluating individuals even if it can technically be applied at that resolution. Shall we throw the baby out with the bathwater anyway?

    How would one stop big oil without changing consumer behaviors? Revolution? Forced degrowth? Organized illegal militancy? Are these things really more practical than changing consumer culture, or are they convenient excuses for never taking any action at all?

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      I might agree but keep in mind that all consumer goods and even food will become way more unaffordable. Our economy is based on emissions because it’s cheap and kinda convenient for everyone, not because we’re that hellbent on destroying the earth.

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    9 months ago

    Agreed, if I want to roll coal in my daily commute that is my business. As long as I produce less CO2 than an oil refinery, my actions are without consequence.

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      Also, there is a sense of incredibly naive detachment here. It’s not like the oil refinery is working because all people involved have the only ultimate goal of killing the planet because of some evil plan. The oil refinery is working for you, to produce the gasoline you pump in your car and the plastics you buy stuff in every single day. We need to reduce demand for that stuff, through individual action too. If you use oil industry’s stuff, “their emissions” are YOUR emissions.

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        The refinery is still operating because the people who run it make tons of money no because “we have to” ya dunce.

        Investments in solar 50 years ago and plant based plastics around the same time would have literally saved the planet.

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      9 months ago

      This is actually true. You as an individual can’t even make a blip compared to industry.

      Go ahead and feel guilty tho like the corps want you to, pussy.