“Breaking news: Invasion of Mexico halted by huge wall Trump built last term and then completely forgot about.”
They’re going to use the Palestine strategy aren’t they?
“Oh there are drug cartels hiding in this hospital! Drug labs in this school! We need to bomb it! Humanitarian aid workers? They’re actually Hamas double agents! We mean drug cartels or whatever.”
We tend to just say weapons of mass destruction
That’s so retro tho
Does Mexico have a lot of oil? That’s always reason to go “install democracy”.
We do but we already give it to the US for free.
Canada has a lot of oil. Expensive, dirty, soon to be useless oil.
Only Alberta thinks it has any value. The extraction costs mean the profit margins are razor thin- even the US knows it’s a wasted investment.
If this happened in a video game, this is how you’d end up in a bizzaro situation where you’d have Russian bases in Mexico. Trump has bad advisors.
The worst advisors. Truly the worst advisors anyone has ever had, the worst in history! They say my advisors are pretty good, but they lie. My advisors SUCK.
Sorry. I’m tired and doing an off kilter Trump impression just seemed like the thing to do in the moment.
With the respect, the Trump team failed to invade the US Capitol when they controlled it’s defense apparatus, they are more likely to kill themselves than succeed in any ground invasion.
They forgot to bring guns. Total noob mistake
Haven’t we already demonstrated that we can’t successfully hold a mountainous desert against the will of its population in the modern era?
So overall, I think mexico does need a third party to fight the cartels. Anyone living in mexico probably has family there. Andcthe cartels have soo much influence that they can get at just about anyone. So a local force just can’t take the country back. Now the current government of mexico can’t willingly let a third party in, because then the cartels would go after them. So something like this where the third party is unhinged enough to do it on it’s own is actually a decent way for it to happen. So let trump start his war on the cartels. It might actually end up as a good thing. The next president can run on ending that war and cooperating with the Mexican government to give them true control of thier country again… because by then, hopefully the cartels are weakened enough to allow the government to win.
This feels like a broken clock is right twice a day kind of thing. He may accidentally bring about a good thing for all the wrong reasons.So I follow your logic… but fuck me if that doesn’t just sound like post hoc justification for invading your next door neighbor in an ultra nationalistic way.
I was going more for possible unintended consequences that turned out good by accident.
The US created the cartels with their disastrous war on drugs. The solution isn’t invading, it’s ending the failed war!
I know Americans have trouble understanding this, but the solution to most problems isn’t escalating it with another war and bombing the shit out of something.
I wasn’t advocating for invading, just saying it could accidentally work out. Mostly a bad cop good cop thing. Trump being the bad cop, and the next pres runs on being the good cop who repairs the relationship and actually solves the problem. Which certainly would need to include changes in drug policy in the US.
What happens to all the normal non cartel people caught up in the middle of your drug war?
New job openings in the cartel after the withdrawal?
And Americans were dumb enough to think this asshole was the anti-war candidate
No, I’m pretty sure this is what they wanted.
It’s not “war” to them. I struggle to find a MAGA way to spin it, but it will be spun as something patriotic.
“Special Military Operation” is the current popular term I believe /s
You didn’t need the sarcasm tag.
It’s “patriotic” because they’re protecting America from the drug lords and criminals obviously and thank god trump is the first president with balls to do it /s sarcasm please don’t kill me
As they sip down their alcoholic caffeinated sugar beverage
Look at how the Russian invasion of Ukraine was sold to Russians. That’s how it will be sold to us. Those cartels are some scary motherfuckers. Legit.
There are a lot of folks who would welcome the idea of if Mexico can’t handle them, we will.
The embargo’s would destroy us.
It’s not a war, it’s a special military operation.
Here’s how that’s going to go:
- He’ll send in the military and they’ll successfully kill some “drug dealers”.
- Mexico will be (rightly) pissed AF.
- Mexico will retaliate by just ending all exports to the US of some essential goods (e.g. tomatoes, car parts).
- The price of those goods will skyrocket. Business will close. White people who voted for Trump will bitch that, “he’s hurting the wrong people” again (leopards eating faces).
- Mexico will refuse to take “back” their immigrants because of Trump’s bullshit.
- Trump will “suddenly” need to jail a lot more “illegals” that he’s rounded up.
- They’ll start making up stories about how all the millions of people in the concentration camps are nasty criminals and murderers… As an excuse for the poor treatment and blatant raping and murdering going on.
- Right wing media will tow the party line. Anyone defending the “criminals” (which will include families with children) is a traitor to the country.
History will repeat itself.
Nah, this is what will happen.
- Trump will talk about sending the military to Mexico
- Sheinbaum will talk about sending the military to fight the “invasion”
- They’ll both realize a war between the two countries would mean that they’ll no longer get those sweet cartel bribes
- Literally nothing will happen
- Trump will brag about how he subdued Mexico
- Sheinbaum will brag about how she resisted an American invasion
- People from both sides will eat it up
I just cant imagine any of his lackeys being organized enough to build a camp network that can hold millions of people. My bet is they will will try to cram hundreds of thousands into camps that can only hold tens of thousands, fail, give up, then declare victory.
Where do you think prisons and Wal-Marts come from? The stork?
Its the scale that is the issue. ICE has a total capacity of maybe 50k people. The entire US, federal government plus 50 states, has a combined prison capacity of less than 2 million people. And those facilities are already occupied now. Hes got to build new capacity for maybe 10 million people. Thats bigger than China’s reeducation system. Its bigger than the Soviet gulags. Its bigger than the fucking Holocaust. Not just a little bit bigger, but bigger than all of those put together. And its got to be ready within 4 years, maybe 8 if he clings to power for a third term. His last administration couldn’t even build the wall.
His last administration didn’t have the “throw out the entire book and crown myself King of the United States” Project 2025 behind him.
I hope you’re right and it’s not feasible, but people would have said the same thing about Germany in the 20s.
Steve Bannon will set up.a fund to collect donations for build camps.
Not that any will get built.
I just cant imagine any of his lackeys being organized enough to build a camp network that can hold millions of people.
That’s why they’ll outsource it to a private company (owned by one of their donors) with zero oversight.
Which takes us right back to the start. Embezzling money wont help hold that many people. The number were looking at is an order of magnitude greater than all people currently imprisoned in the US, which is already a huge number and major expense. Trying to come up with a camp system to hold people at that scale is just not the sort of logistical challenge that gets resolved within Trump’s attention span.
So, this is what you do to your #1trade partner
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Level 100% tarrifs on their goods
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dump millions of deportees on them
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invade them with military
IDK about you, but to me it sounds a little counter productive
What you were expecting a productive presidency this time around?
They’ll sure produce a lot of bullshit lies.
“The only thing trump can produce on a counter is E Coli! The BEST E Coli! HahaHAH, stupid Libs!!!”
- trump, probably. (Never trust a person that speaks in 3rd person.)
Never trust a person that speaks in 3rd person.
Every time I see donvict the dipshit talking about himself in the third person I think of that idiot character The Jimmy in that Seinfeld episode…
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Given the level of expertise in the trump regime, this can only possibly end with mexico reclaiming texas. I hope they rename it Alamonia. To remember.
Remember the Alimony!!!
The aluminium
Given they find Mexico. If I were Canadian I’d make sure all the signs were easily readable.
Would they even want Texas?
I wouldn’t. I’d give it to them… if it were up to me…
I Imagine they’d be very happy with us returning any of the land we conquered from them. Even Texas. That said, if we’re looking to get rid of texas we could just give it back to its native inhabitants. Hell, throw Oklahoma in with it.
Texas is incredibly resource rich, even if the people who live here are generally fuck faces.
Dude you’d never believe this I have donny gets assassinated by the cartel on my bingo card!
Eric Adams is making me cheer for the FBI. Is Trump gonna make me cheer for the cartels?
We are on that parody timeline.
Post satire reality
Trump has reportedly been gathering “battle plans” to attack drug cartels in Mexico since early 2023, with or without Mexico’s permission.
One source close to Trump told Rolling Stone about a plan for a “soft” invasion of the country, in which U.S. special forces would assassinate cartel leaders covertly
These actions vary in their level of force, including drone strikes and airstrikes against cartel targets such as drug labs, sending military advisers and trainers to Mexico, sending “kill teams” to the country, using cyberwarfare against drug lords and their organizations, and the assassination plan.
Sounds accurate. He thinks things work like 80s action movies. He probably literally got mad when they told him Rambo was a fictional character, so they had to force some guy to legally change his name to Rambo so Trump would be happy.
The idea that you can just “send” “special forces” “assassins” to kill cartel leaders in a foreign country is fairly challenging just as an accomplishsble mission, let alone factoring in the potential and very serious blowback from the cartels AND the Mexican government.
$20 says he recently watched Sicario or something.
80s action movies.
I also appreciate this contribution to the conversation. Thank you.
Lol that’s incredible. Never seen it before, thanks.
What’s more amusing is how they’ve all cried about how illegals are invading the country. If we invade and annex Mexico, are they still illegals?
They’ll invent a term “resident non-citizen” and they’ll divvy up the country as franchises to the highest bidder.
Oh it won’t be annexed, it’ll be blown up and left.
Mexico? Do you mean South Texas?
Texas? You mean North Mexico?
No, if that were the case it would be called Coahuila y Tejas like it was before Antonio López de Santa Anna (spit on the ground) lost it.
I can’t make it a fucking day without making a sardonic, cynical joke based on old sci-fi nerd shit till BAM yeah, getting degrees in poli sci and econ were a waste of time, my nerd sense as a child ( + the ability to discern fantastical elements from plausible elements of a story) was all that was actually needed to learn about the future.
So anyway, Ghost in the Shell timeline it is then.
Obviously minus the impossible robotic/cybernetic tech.
Season 2, Episode 14 of Stand Alone Complex.
Most of the episode is a flashback to the 2020’s, where its established that America invades Mexico with the goal of stopping the cartels, and both sides are using PMCs/Mercenaries.
(Blackwater never went away, they just changed names a bunch of times, now they’ve merged/consolidated with a bunch of other similar PMCs into Constellis… Trump pardoned 4 of the Blackwater guys in the Nisour Square massacre in Iraq at the end of his last term, so they’re obviously in his rolodex)