• kurwa@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Who the hell cares, Israel has killed a whole lot more innocent people, including thousands of fucking children. The Israeli government is a bunch of genociders.

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      8 months ago

      Because the truth and facts matter when discussing moral responsibility. It doesn’t absolve Israel of other acts of war harming civilians. But this matters when discussing Hamas’s responsibility over the death of Gaza civilians.

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        8 months ago

        You will all nitpick minor details and put those who are oppressed (the Palestinians) over hot fiery coals for being potentially wrong whilst never laying a single ounce of doubt or blame on Israel, the ones conducting a god damn ethnic cleansing. I’m sorry I don’t really care about arguing over this one specific instance of horror, (that which I never personally said was Israels fault by the way) when there are many thousands upon thousands of other instances that Israel boasts about murdering innocent people.

        Nitpick all you want, but all of you are just pathetic if this is the tiny sad ant hill you die on while real people die.

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      8 months ago

      Don’t you bother to ask what happened to 1000 misfired rockets from Gaza?

      (1200 something confirmed misfires from IDF, and almost 800 something from a twitch streaming bots that were scraping al Jazeera cams etc, some independent new reports on these too). Let’s just say 200 rockets, don’t you wonder where they landed and what happened?

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        8 months ago

        And the amount of rockets fired by anyone in Gaza is nothing compared to the sheer destruction Israel does.

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          8 months ago

          Well, according to al jazeera they dropped 6000 bombs - 4000 tonnes - from Oct 7 - Oct 12.

          As of 2nd Nov the number was 25000 tonnes. Let’s say that’s 25000 bombs.

          Pretty terrible death rate for that number considering the options available.

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        8 months ago

        I’m sorry, do we have to wait for them to finish? We know their intentions, Israeli officials say it plainly, that they want to remove them all, make it uninhabitable where they live. That is the act of genocide, you piece of garbage.

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          8 months ago

          We know their intentions, Israeli officials say it plainly

          I thought they only lied though. I guess you can always pick and choose which parts you believe.

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            8 months ago

            They do lie, they lie all the time. Yet when they talk about their bloodthirst for genocide, dumb motherfuckers like you say, “oh haha that’s so funny they’re just kidding!” Y’all stupid shits of course only believe lies. Talk about picking and fuckin choosing, my god you hypocrite.

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    8 months ago

    Now that Israel just openly declares it is bombing and invading hospitals, the fog of war bullshit really doesn’t matter anymore.

    Maybe this one hospital strike was a rocket. What about all the other ones?

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      8 months ago

      All the other ones were literally illegally used by Hamas as bases of combat operations and storage of their weapons. Heroes don’t hide behind injured vulnerable people in hospitals or behind children in their schools. Hamas deserves to be destroyed.

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        8 months ago

        All the other ones were literally illegally used by Hamas as bases of combat operations and storage of their weapons.

        According to Israel, the one doing the war crimes. 🙄

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      8 months ago

      Yeah, so maybe you’re right, maybe I did steal money from your purse, push grandma down the stairs when she got in my way, left the milk out over night, shit in Dad’s shoes while high on meth, smoked crack in the alley, slapped all my cousins alphabetically, poured cocaine on the dog, but I swear, I didn’t smoke crack in my bedroom and I don’t like being accused of things I didn’t do!

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        My understanding is this lie was used by Hamas to isolate Israel from Arab nations where much of the public was frankly horrified by the brutal violence Hamas had aimed specifically at civilians. So no, it wasn’t just “the one relatively inconsequential thing,” it is a lie that has had serious consequences.

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          Considering the fact that Israel is now bombing and invading every hospital, what difference does it make?

          If this was a lie then it was only a lie by a few weeks. Israel has fulfilled every accusation that Hamas has made.

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    8 months ago

    HRW may very well be right here, but if the only investigation the police does after a homicide is talk to some witnesses… but you know, never actually check for fingerprints, or in this case… analyze fragments from the rocket, then I’m not going to go all in and say that they’ve done much of a report. How convenient that people act like this is all the proof they need without even reading what they actually examined.