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    3 days ago

    Yes and no. While the rules are all made up, and different people can just make up more rules, the standard rules say that any deal with the devil, even this bet, is a sin, an unforgivable sin. Adding in the sin of pride, which means Johnny is unlikely to ever repent, and the devil got a soul.

    Also, there’s a sequel song with a bunch of big names on the project, Johnny went down due to the sin of pride.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0XUTD7QYcs

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        2 days ago

        Again, the rules are made up, but there are a dozen listed sins that are unforgivable. You just have to look for them.

        However, a deal with the devil is automatically considered blasphemy against God, and thus an unforgivable sin. Add in the sin of Pride, and Johnny is damned.

        • there are a dozen listed sins that are unforgivable. You just have to look for them.

          Both Matthew 12:30-32 and Mark 3:20-29 clearly state otherwise. Idk what Bible you’re reading.

          a deal with the devil is automatically considered blasphemy against God, and thus an unforgivable sin.

          While making a deal with the devil is often viewed as a form of blasphemy, the unforgivable sin- blasphemy against the Holy Spirit- involves an ultimate rejection of God’s truth and grace, which isn’t necessarily inherent to making a deal with the devil.

          Add in the sin of Pride, and Johnny is damned.

          Pride is a forgivable sin

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            15 hours ago

            Pride might be forgivable, but the prideful rarely ask.

            And again, a deal with the devil is by definition, a rejection of God.

            Also murder is on the list of unforgivable sins.

            Because there are five or six places in the new testament alone that list unforgivable sins.

            • again, a deal with the devil is by definition, a rejection of God.

              Again, not inherently.

              murder is on the list of unforgivable sins.

              Literally King David himself is a stark example to the contrary. Paul too. Are you just saying things and hoping they’re true? What do you think unforgivable means?

              there are five or six places in the new testament alone that list unforgivable sins.

              Care to cite the scripture you’re referencing? I’m not aware of such passages. Regardless, if they do exist, I assume they’re effectively overwritten by Jesus later doing the whole forgiving everyone’s sins by dying thing

              I’m not even religious anymore, I don’t know why I’m so invested in this