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The lengths people will go to just to avoid learning how to properly cook vegetables…
Eh I’m keen. I didn’t stop eating pigs because they taste bad or are unhealthy or whatever. I stopped because it’s a moral atrocity.
If someone wants to be like “here is a transgenic soybean that tastes like that thing you like” whether that’s crustaceans, pigs, or Apple tart then fuck yeah I’m down to enjoy it.
Plus if it makes it easier for carnists to change more will so that’d be nice.
carnists
That word really does paint a picture of the speaker.
Edit: wow! I did not realize I was in c/vegans. The downvotes just solidified that “picture of the vegan speaker”.
It is literally the accepted academic term for followers of the ideology that considers the use of specific non human animals as foodstuffs and materials acceptable. As opposed to various religious ideologies or philosophical ones such as veganism.
Like stuff has names, idk what to tell you. Getting bent up over being part of a named category is as silly as people who insist they’re not heterosexual or cisgender or whatever.
If you’re interesting in learning about the topic I can recommend Psychologist and researcher Melany Joy’s book “why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows” which explores this in a western context.
It is literally the accepted academic term for followers of the ideology that considers the use of specific non human animals as foodstuffs and materials acceptable.
That’s fair, but I’ve never heard it used outside of a vegan talking about how terrible “other” people are.
I also did NOT realize which sub I was on. That’s what I get for browsing all and then walking into a non-carnivorous lion’s den.
Like stuff has names, idk what to tell you. Getting bent up over being part of a named category is as silly as people who insist they’re not heterosexual or cisgender or whatever.
I’m not bent in any way. Like I said, the only people I’ve ever heard that word used are vegans. And it’s always said in a snide way as a derogatory term.
If you’re interesting in learning about the topic I can recommend Psychologist and researcher Melany Joy’s book “why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows” which explores this in a western context.
Nah I’m good. I love dogs and cows. And cows are tasty too.
It’s actually a documented phenomena that carnists feel more negative judgement from vegans than vegans actually judge carnists.
You have to remember that almost all of us were raised carnist, and many spent decades following the ideology before changing our minds. I went vegan at like 25, for all I know you’re 21 and will go vegan at 23 thus being a “better” person than me :p
I really would encourage reading, consider that almost all vegans were convinced in the face of inertia and overwhelming social pressure not to change. Consider also that at literally any point in the past we can see behaviours only a minority were calling out which we now find staggeringly cruel.
You don’t have to agree, but you only stand to gain by learning.
They know that you can eat these plants without the need to genetically alter them to be more like pigs? I really don’t understand the appeal for this
I mean the appeal is yummy? Like you’re welcome to go eat the ancestor of apples or stick to seeded watermelons or whatever. You can even prefer the old thing, find the new flavour bad. Hell it’s even acceptable to find the whole thing creepy but to not understand seems a deliberate choice.
People enjoy the taste of meat to the extent they are willing to build demonic factories of agony in order to eat world destroying amounts of it. Many people protest taste as a reason to keep on with this holocaust, and while they may be lying perhaps it would move the needle for them. Many vegans or vegetarians also enjoy foodstuffs that mimic flavours or textures found in flesh.
/shrug seems understandable
I’d say this is a great step forward. However much I’d like it, there’s no way people will just stop eating meat overnight. Anything that ends up hurting fewer animals for human consumption is a welcome change — whether it is lab-grown meat or enriched vegetable proteins.
