Eh I’m keen. I didn’t stop eating pigs because they taste bad or are unhealthy or whatever. I stopped because it’s a moral atrocity.
If someone wants to be like “here is a transgenic soybean that tastes like that thing you like” whether that’s crustaceans, pigs, or Apple tart then fuck yeah I’m down to enjoy it.
Plus if it makes it easier for carnists to change more will so that’d be nice.
It is literally the accepted academic term for followers of the ideology that considers the use of specific non human animals as foodstuffs and materials acceptable. As opposed to various religious ideologies or philosophical ones such as veganism.
Like stuff has names, idk what to tell you. Getting bent up over being part of a named category is as silly as people who insist they’re not heterosexual or cisgender or whatever.
If you’re interesting in learning about the topic I can recommend Psychologist and researcher Melany Joy’s book “why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows” which explores this in a western context.
It is literally the accepted academic term for followers of the ideology that considers the use of specific non human animals as foodstuffs and materials acceptable.
That’s fair, but I’ve never heard it used outside of a vegan talking about how terrible “other” people are.
I also did NOT realize which sub I was on. That’s what I get for browsing all and then walking into a non-carnivorous lion’s den.
Like stuff has names, idk what to tell you. Getting bent up over being part of a named category is as silly as people who insist they’re not heterosexual or cisgender or whatever.
I’m not bent in any way. Like I said, the only people I’ve ever heard that word used are vegans. And it’s always said in a snide way as a derogatory term.
If you’re interesting in learning about the topic I can recommend Psychologist and researcher Melany Joy’s book “why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows” which explores this in a western context.
Nah I’m good. I love dogs and cows. And cows are tasty too.
It’s actually a documented phenomena that carnists feel more negative judgement from vegans than vegans actually judge carnists.
You have to remember that almost all of us were raised carnist, and many spent decades following the ideology before changing our minds. I went vegan at like 25, for all I know you’re 21 and will go vegan at 23 thus being a “better” person than me :p
I really would encourage reading, consider that almost all vegans were convinced in the face of inertia and overwhelming social pressure not to change. Consider also that at literally any point in the past we can see behaviours only a minority were calling out which we now find staggeringly cruel.
You don’t have to agree, but you only stand to gain by learning.
Eh I’m keen. I didn’t stop eating pigs because they taste bad or are unhealthy or whatever. I stopped because it’s a moral atrocity.
If someone wants to be like “here is a transgenic soybean that tastes like that thing you like” whether that’s crustaceans, pigs, or Apple tart then fuck yeah I’m down to enjoy it.
Plus if it makes it easier for carnists to change more will so that’d be nice.
That word really does paint a picture of the speaker.
Edit: wow! I did not realize I was in c/vegans. The downvotes just solidified that “picture of the vegan speaker”.
It is literally the accepted academic term for followers of the ideology that considers the use of specific non human animals as foodstuffs and materials acceptable. As opposed to various religious ideologies or philosophical ones such as veganism.
Like stuff has names, idk what to tell you. Getting bent up over being part of a named category is as silly as people who insist they’re not heterosexual or cisgender or whatever.
If you’re interesting in learning about the topic I can recommend Psychologist and researcher Melany Joy’s book “why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows” which explores this in a western context.
That’s fair, but I’ve never heard it used outside of a vegan talking about how terrible “other” people are.
I also did NOT realize which sub I was on. That’s what I get for browsing all and then walking into a non-carnivorous lion’s den.
I’m not bent in any way. Like I said, the only people I’ve ever heard that word used are vegans. And it’s always said in a snide way as a derogatory term.
Nah I’m good. I love dogs and cows. And cows are tasty too.
It’s actually a documented phenomena that carnists feel more negative judgement from vegans than vegans actually judge carnists.
You have to remember that almost all of us were raised carnist, and many spent decades following the ideology before changing our minds. I went vegan at like 25, for all I know you’re 21 and will go vegan at 23 thus being a “better” person than me :p
I really would encourage reading, consider that almost all vegans were convinced in the face of inertia and overwhelming social pressure not to change. Consider also that at literally any point in the past we can see behaviours only a minority were calling out which we now find staggeringly cruel.
You don’t have to agree, but you only stand to gain by learning.