• Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.mlM
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    10 months ago

    wondering if i should cover the russia ukraine unit or israel palestine unit in my american studies course

    i know more about ukraine russia, and have a good reference for info on it (thank you Yogthos). the book is by timothy Snyder, an eastern european turbolib. I want to argue with it so much.

    but israel palestine is just a lot more. It would be bad to ignore it, and let liberals have a monopoly on the narrative. the unit is sympathetic but i can already sense ‘i condemn hamas’ from the unit.

    • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.mlM
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      10 months ago

      I have some advice but I need more information on the situation before I just ramble for about a page and a half in a none sensical way, what do you mean Cover, as in write your final paper for or post about over here?

      Also, I understand how the US plays a role in this, but and ESPECIALY in the Ukraine Russia, how in the Liberal World view are those events being justified in an American Studies Class in the Liberal Worldview.

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        10 months ago

        what do you mean Cover, as in write your final paper for or post about over here?

        basically the teams lead the discussion during the week we go over their specific unit. there are 4 units, the last two are russia ukraine and the genocide of Palestine.

        • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.mlM
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          10 months ago

          How I see this trying to get the most correct information out, and the least incorrect information out for these 2 units. I will Preffice by saying that by far and away the more important issue, from where I am sitting is the Genocide in Palestine, however, there is a general concensous on most collage campuses that 1) this is a genocide and 2) genocide is bad, though this is not a universal truth, and if it seems like your class in specific is not of this mindset, OR, there seems to be one person who is really Pro Isn’treal, OR, you are much more passionate about this one than the other take this one without reading any farther.

          YAY you have read farther, or I have typed this for no reason one way or the other its been typed. Here is what I would think about next, if liberals run the Russia Ukraine war, they will get roughly 0% of it correct, as most liberals I talk to can hardly fathem Russia as a rational actor in this situation, and as you said the text book is written by an eastern European turbo-lib, so the book isn’t even going to pretend to be giving a balanced or nuanced look at the issue. At this point, I would say, and its only so long as the class seems like they understand (even if its just a vibe check) that what is happening in Palestine is a Genocide and Genocide is bad, and there is not that 1 Student who is Really pro Isn’treal (because they will take it), I would personaly cover Russia Ukraine. Agian not because it is the more important, it isnt, but because the overall understanding is more likely to be layed down, or atleast underlying foundations for why this is wrong is more likely to be layed down, and the information is going to be more correct if a Liberal Collage Student handles it, if that at all makes sense.

          TL;DR Assuming that this is made up of the general population of Collage Students, and there is not someone who is a Huge Zionist in the class, and your equaly passionate about them, go for the Russia Ukraine topic understanding its the less important one but by doing so more correct information will get out than if you did the reverse

          • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.mlM
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            10 months ago

            Also either way, but especily if you go Russia Ukraine and go against the narrative CITE EVERYTHING METICULOUSLY, yes you might feel like a crazy person, but what you do not want is for the proff to say you did a consperecy theory or unfounded allegations, basicly you will have to cite step by step how you got to your conclusion… may or may not be a personal example in here