• Nobody@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    They got a pass for taking pot shots at Israel, because that’s an internal regional conflict. Shooting at civilian trade ships in one of the most important shipping lanes on the planet is a completely different thing. We’re not watching gas prices skyrocket, a resurgent Russia, a global economic downturn, etc. just because some religious fanatics are throwing a temper tantrum.

    The Houthis were warned repeatedly to cut that shit out, and they didn’t listen. These are the consequences.

    • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Ansar Allah have said explicitly that they are attempting to enforce a Naval blockade in the Red Sea against Israel. They have also stated that they believe under international law they are obligated to do whatever they can to prevent genocide.

      I don’t see any reason why they can’t be negotiated with. Calling them “religious fanatics” that are “throwing a temper tantrum” is just a silly way to dismiss non violent solutions to the conflict.

      Biden’s decision to threaten and subsequently bomb them is just plain arrogant belligerence. The US backed campaign to bomb and starve out the Houthis didn’t work previously so why does Biden think it’ll work now?

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        Firstly, the Houthi flag includes the words, “Death to America.” These are not rational actors. They are fanatic jihadis and all attempts to reason with them have failed. Acting like the Houthis are the same as a regular nation state is borderline intellectually dishonest.

        If they have a problem with Israel, keep firing at Israel. If they want a problem with the rest of the world, keep firing at our CIVILIAN ships. Firing at those ships is an act of war, and it was going to provoke a response.

        Biden waited a very long time to act, which emboldened Iran to take an oil tanker. That move virtually guaranteed a response, and it’s good that the response was limited to Yemen. Biden is playing the cards he’s been dealt, and he’s playing them reasonably.

        Also, it should be mentioned that the Houthis themselves said the casualties were ~5 dead and 6 wounded. Warming was given far in advance so they could evacuate and minimize casualties. If Biden had wanted to play dirtier, he could have. A deliberate decision was made to minimize civilian casualties. If the positions were reversed, the Houthis would nuke Tel Aviv, DC, and every other major city in both the US and Israel.

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          You do realize that the US supported a campaign of bombing and a blockade against Yemen for the better part of the past decade? It’s not irrational of them to hate the US. They certainly aren’t more or less religious fanatics than Israel or the Christian Zionists in the US that support Israel.

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            Why is it that every time that you’re confronted with information that proves you wrong you always just pivot back to

            “Well what does it matter anyway, America is worse”?

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          Marg bar amrika

          You’re more mad about the treats getting delayed than the genocide our government is enabling.

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    Can someone explain to me how this is “A Breach of Yemeni Sovereignty”? It seems like these actions are supported by the internationally recognized government in Yemen. (I’m not asking about the validity of these actions, or the horrendous effects of them. Just the sovereignty question)

    Also, is this the interviewee? It appears she is a language and literacy assistant professor who happens to be Yemeni American, not an expert on the Yemen war, international law, or anything else relevant to these events.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      Ansar Allah movement controls the territory where 80% of Yemeni population lives and enjoys mass public support. The fact that burger empire and its vassals refuse to recognize sovereignty and right to self determination of other nations just further exposes the moral bankruptcy of the west.

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    Israel: bombs and invades Palestine

    Palestine fighting back is wrong.

    Yemen: bombs ships serving Israel

    America fighting back is... right?

    I feel bad for American voters. The last time military action was taken without congressional approval it led to a 20 year war resulting in a million dead Iraqis and the Taliban government back in power in Afghanistan (among other completely preventable atrocities, like this).

    The hypnotism of American exceptionalism is requiring an almost lethal dose of ignorance to continue to work.

    Edit: Wrong. Congress approved military action against Afghanistan and Iraq. They were lied to by the Bush administration but they did in fact approve both.

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      Sure you are incapable of looking at anything but what’s directly in front of you and makes your blood pressure go up a bit

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      A comical statement. You’re aware ghengis Khan or Marcus Aurelius or fucking Hitler or Stalin or mao exist right? People with body counts in the millions. Fuck.those ancient leaders.put a whole lot of manual labor into those kill counts. A whole lot of effort. Hardly compares.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        Burger empire murders people on an industrial scale, and has destroyed entire nations. For example, Biden voted for the invasion of Iraq where over a million people have been killed. He’s right there with the worst of the criminals to have ever lived.