Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the codebase because it’s too massive to maintain, with enough dependencies to make even a small child think he’s independent by comparison.
All so that we can, uh, synchronize a markdown text file across 3 computers.
These projects exist so that we don’t all have to re-invent the wheel every single time we need something simple. They have a purpose, even if they’re not pushing the envelope. I’ve developed a bunch of software to do extremely simple things for myself because all the existing options are massive and bloated and do a million more things than I need.
I’m sure your projects look impressive on your resumé, though.
Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the code base because it’s too massive to maintain
So much this. I recently had OneDev recommended to me as a forgejo alternative. I was told that it was “very lightweight.” Intrigued I tried it out. It fuckin’ runs java and is resource heavy as fuck. Just sitting idle it consumes almost 13% of VPS RAM: http://i.xno.dev/u/SGXxO2.png
You still have 63% RAM available in that screenshot, there are zero problems with Java using 13% RAM. It’s the same as the tired old trope of “ChRoMe Is EaTiNg My MeMoRy”. Unused memory is wasted memory if it can be used for caching instead, so unless you’re running out of available memory, there is no problem.
Also, the JVM has a lot of options for configuring its various caches as well as when it allocates or releases memory. Maybe take a look at that first.
Edit: Apparently people don’t want to hear this but don’t have any actual arguments to reply with. Sorry to ruin your “JaVa BaD” party.
Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” for a CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.
You can also tweak how much memory you’d like the jvm to grab with ’-Xms100m’. Any defaults are most likely aimed at much larger deployments than yours.
From the looks of it, they also seem to bundle the vscode server and a bunch of other stuff. I’m actually kinda surprised they do it with only 1G of RAM.
I only looked at dumpdrop and it seemed fine, to me. Compared to other similar projects which are 10 times as large and provide essentially the same functionality. The world of web-based file-uploading solutions is fucked.
First off, no, this is 100% not true. That’s like saying a professional chef’s chicken soup will be the same as a beginner following the same recipe. Just, no.
Second, I’m talking about the general idea and implementation. Example:
Which is easier?
Cloning and running a repo to install node deps, configuring dotenv variables, running node app, then opening a browser to input a domain name into a field to get a response back about domain ownership, OR…
Opening a terminal and running whois somedomain.com and getting a response back. Code to illustrate.
Which is easier?
Configuring and running a compose to start a docker container to visit a browser to use a text editor, OR…
Open a local text editor which every OS has available
The cheeky nature of the projects aren’t lost on me, i just don’t see a point beyond basic coding exercises for them to exist. They’re getting social media hype and embracing that…cool, but anyone acting like this is some awesome new stuff is just delusional or flat wrong.
Reminds me of a “minimalist text editor” that my coworker showed me circa 2015. It was an Electron app that consumed more RAM to display a empty file than Firefox with 5 active tabs.
There’s a difference between KISS and just plain useless. These apps are like beginner code for people in high school.
I don’t even a little bit agree. You’re welcome to your opinion, but being an asshole just for the sake of it is a bad look.
Yeah let’s instead install a massive bloated shit project that the original developers left years ago and the maintainers don’t know heads from tails of the codebase because it’s too massive to maintain, with enough dependencies to make even a small child think he’s independent by comparison.
All so that we can, uh, synchronize a markdown text file across 3 computers.
These projects exist so that we don’t all have to re-invent the wheel every single time we need something simple. They have a purpose, even if they’re not pushing the envelope. I’ve developed a bunch of software to do extremely simple things for myself because all the existing options are massive and bloated and do a million more things than I need.
I’m sure your projects look impressive on your resumé, though.
So much this. I recently had OneDev recommended to me as a forgejo alternative. I was told that it was “very lightweight.” Intrigued I tried it out. It fuckin’ runs java and is resource heavy as fuck. Just sitting idle it consumes almost 13% of VPS RAM: http://i.xno.dev/u/SGXxO2.png
I don’t know what you’re running there mate, Forgejo is a golang app.
Forejo isn’t an “app.” It’s a for-profit fork of Gitea… It’s a hosted git solution. Quite a bit more than “an app.”
The fuck is Forejo. I’m running a personal Forgejo instance and have contributed to the project. It is not for-profit.
Did you say “For-Profit” ? Are you ok my dear ?
Sweet color scheme, what’s the name?
Application is bashtop. Terminal theme is gruvbox.
I think it’s Gruvbox but I could be wrong
You still have 63% RAM available in that screenshot, there are zero problems with Java using 13% RAM. It’s the same as the tired old trope of “ChRoMe Is EaTiNg My MeMoRy”. Unused memory is wasted memory if it can be used for caching instead, so unless you’re running out of available memory, there is no problem.
Also, the JVM has a lot of options for configuring its various caches as well as when it allocates or releases memory. Maybe take a look at that first.
Edit: Apparently people don’t want to hear this but don’t have any actual arguments to reply with. Sorry to ruin your “JaVa BaD” party.
Sad that you’re downvoted for being right.
Java apps can be memory hogs, but anything else can be too. The jvm is exceptionally performant for persistently running apps.
Yeah. Why have RAM when you’re not gonna use it? The JVM is pretty efficient
Not to be that guy, but 12% of 8G isn’t even close to ”heavy as fuck” for a CI/CD and collaboration suite that seems aimed at enterprise users.
You can also tweak how much memory you’d like the jvm to grab with ’-Xms100m’. Any defaults are most likely aimed at much larger deployments than yours.
But yes, Java is a disease.
It’s not being used for CI/CD, so it’s a webui for git. It absolutely is heavy as fuck for just sitting there.
Just going off the marketing here:
From the looks of it, they also seem to bundle the vscode server and a bunch of other stuff. I’m actually kinda surprised they do it with only 1G of RAM.
I suggest Fossil as an alternative to Forgejo. Reminder it’s an alternative to git itself (If you wish to use it)
Made by D. Richard Hipp? I do love SQLite…
Yes that one, comes with built-in ticketting, wiki, bug-tracker & webserver & web-UI
I don’t know if you’ve looked at the code but it is written in plain js with express.
That node_modules folder is running donuts around your argument at this point.
Were it written in rust or golang it would have been a different story
I only looked at dumpdrop and it seemed fine, to me. Compared to other similar projects which are 10 times as large and provide essentially the same functionality. The world of web-based file-uploading solutions is fucked.
And there’s a difference between utilitarian and idiotic as well. The fact you can’t tell the difference is a “you” problem, friend.
Can you explain the difference to me such that my feeble mind may understand?
Doesn’t seem so.
As a neutral observer, it doesn’t seem to me that you’ve really tried.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were spit out of Claude.
I’m not going to make all of these apps myself.
I’m working on big boy apps.
If you look at someone who’s mastered coding, you’ll realize that their code looks like a beginner
First off, no, this is 100% not true. That’s like saying a professional chef’s chicken soup will be the same as a beginner following the same recipe. Just, no.
Second, I’m talking about the general idea and implementation. Example:
Which is easier?
whois somedomain.comand getting a response back. Code to illustrate.Which is easier?
The cheeky nature of the projects aren’t lost on me, i just don’t see a point beyond basic coding exercises for them to exist. They’re getting social media hype and embracing that…cool, but anyone acting like this is some awesome new stuff is just delusional or flat wrong.
Reminds me of a “minimalist text editor” that my coworker showed me circa 2015. It was an Electron app that consumed more RAM to display a empty file than Firefox with 5 active tabs.