• joneskind@beehaw.org
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    8 months ago

    Never was.

    Organic means “grown without chemicals”.

    It’s a statement against pollution and nothing else

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      8 months ago

      But what the hell is a “chemical” everything is a chemical

      I used to work at whole foods and we had to do training on the meaning of the organic label. In a survey 94% of responders listed the reason they prefer organic was no pesticides. However organic produce is still sprayed with pesticides

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        8 months ago

        However organic produce is still sprayed with pesticides

        Not in Europe. Organic is by definition grown without use of artificial and harmful products like pesticides and herbicides.

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          8 months ago

          Not in Europe

          Nice goal post move attempt. They do use pesticides in Europe too though. You’re just wrong. Now you’re wrong twice, nice.

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            8 months ago

            Pesticides are used in Europe, sure. But to be able to market a product as organic there are actually pretty extensive regulations

            link to source

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    8 months ago

    I thought it was so you know what youre buying was made with less damage to the environment from pesticides.

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      8 months ago

      They’re still drowned in pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers.

      It’s just that they have to use ORGANIC pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers.

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      8 months ago

      Common misconception promoted by wellness ghouls.

      Organic farming means that fertilisers are made from natural sources not chemical fertilisers.

      Pesticides have exactly zero to do with organic vs conventional farming.

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        8 months ago

        USDA organic absolutely prohibits the majority of pesticides. That’s where the standard is most restrictive as there are very few organic pesticides.

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        8 months ago

        Maybe it’s different in the US, but in Denmark, organic means no artificial fertilizers as well as no pesticides.

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          Farming without pesticides would be an excercise in absurdity. There are natural options but “no pesticides” isn’t a thing.

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            8 months ago

            It’s possible, I’m not sure, but there are definitely heavy restrictions on the pesticides you can use to call your product organic.

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    8 months ago

    Yea I had to do a presentation of food labeling (in the EU I should add). And let me tell you, the fish labelings are bullshit. I mean msc and the other one. They have shit rules that are not even enforced. There have been cases of forced labour on ships that work for msc companies. They also do nothing to protect the sea or the environment at all.

    The best labels are the V labels and the EU label. V has strict rules and is known for barging into food productions to check for quality and environmental impact. EU labels are the absolute standard for all products. So although the requirements are not that high they improve the quality of food in Europe and of course sue every company that does not comply.