I’m about to start my 12 week paternity leave next week thanks to a state program and almost everyone that I’ve told has had their jaws on the floor that I would even want to do that.

Today I witnessed a group of coworkers almost bragging how little time they took after their kids were born. I’ve heard stuff like “Most men are hard working and want to support their families so they don’t take leave”.

To me it was a no brainer, I’m getting ~85% of my normal pay and I get to take care of my wife, our son and our newborn for 3 whole months. and for someone who hasn’t taken a day breathe in the past 3 years I think I deserve it.

I’m in the US so I know it’s a “strange” concept, but people have seemed genuinely upset, people it doesn’t affect at all. Again, it’s a state program available to almost anyone who’s worked in the past 2 years, I’ve talked to soon to be dads who scoffed at the idea and were happy to use a week of pto and that’s it.

I feel like I’m missing something.

  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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    Make it a year of pto, and you get to spend that time over the next 18 years. I’d happily take a week after birth and then more time off later as they get older.

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    People are idiots. Why would you give up a benefit you’re legally entitled to? Nobody is going to as much as thank you for that.

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      In the US fathers don’t have any legal right to take time off from work. It’s expected that you would miss at most a few days for the hospital visit.

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        FMLA does cover leave for fathers, and in 2020 the DOL said 56% of US workers were covered by FMLA. That’s still a lot of people who don’t have those protections, but it’s still demonstrably incorrect to say there isn’t “any legal right [for fathers] to take time off from work.”

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        Fathers don’t have a lot of legal rights there, don’t they (“There” as in USA)

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    So basically, the choice is to spend 12 weeks with those idiots or with your baby? Seems like a no brainer to me.

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    Sounds like attitude of wage slaves that have been brainwashed into doing everything for the corpos and being fine with getting scrap. They live to work as opposed to work to live.

    Can’t change the slave mentality of some people. They were just born to be one.

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    In the U.S. we’re taught to brag about how much we’re exploited, as if it’s a virtue.

    It’s a very sick culture.

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    Americans are weird.

    Honestly the time with your partner and kid is precious irreplaceable.

    Anyone who’s weird about it is insecure about their own paternal involvement.

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    I WISH my husband had been able to take time off. Those first few weeks of sleep deprivation are fucking ROUGH on your own. I think you did the right thing and that the child is going to get dramatically better care because his parents are actually sonewhat rested.

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      Furlough was such a sweet deal during the covid lockdowns. Like 80% pay and no work? Sign me up!

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    Pretty sure THEY are the ones missing something. They’ve been brainwashed into thinking you should be embarrassed NOT to shun your family so you can be at work 24/7 to make someone else rich. Take advantage of that program while it still exists.

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    I’m all for paternity leave, but there is a conflict between taking time off to take care of your newborn, and taking time off to breathe.

    Newborns aren’t exactly a vacation.

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    I went through the same thing when I took my paternity leave. Other male coworkers bragged about how they went back to work the day after their kid was born.

    It’s a culture thing where our society is conditioned to be boot lickers for the ruling class. I responded to them at the time, “Congratulations on being a bad father, I’m going to take every day entitled to me”

    Don’t fall into their trap.

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      Yup. Had old union buddies I was talking to after my first, and I brought up that he had a diaper blowout earlier, and they were like “I’ve never changed a diaper in my life!”

      Just told them " damn, I’d be too embarrassed to admit I were that bad of a father in public…"

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      I find it hilarious when people brag about things they think are cool but it just makes them look like dumbasses.

      “Lol I can drink 24 beers in one sitting”

      “I never call in sick, I can be hacking up a lung and I’m still there at the office”

      On and on…

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        These are the idiots that put the ruling class in the position that they hold today. Is it any wonder why they have so much power?

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      There’s nothing impressive about a man going back to work the day after their child was born unless they somehow popped the newborn out of their precious little asshole.

      All it means is that they’re willing to put their wife at risk of post partum depression and that they don’t give a shit about their child. Not a thing to be proud of there.