• Terevos@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Yikes. Why is this being up voted here?

    Translation: let babies who are likely to have developmental issues die.

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      1 year ago

      Translation: you are exactly the myopic, emotion-driven kind of person I was talking about.

      You are potentially forcing a life of misery onto the child, its parents and society as a whole, just because you are too cowardly to say that yes, some lives are not worth living. This is a mercy that every street dog is subject to, but humans not.

      And don’t act all “hurr durr value of human life”, just look around the world. We all ignore millions of cruel deaths because it would be like real inconvenient to help them. You are dishonest and hypocritical.

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        1 year ago

        No, I just actually care about people with special needs and don’t want to murder them. I have a special needs kid and I know plenty of other kids with special needs who are very happy to be alive and happy that they have parents that love them and didn’t try to murder them when they were babies.

        What you suggest is eugenics and it’s rightly thought of on the same level as the Holocaust. It’s abhorrent.

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          1 year ago

          So you are emotional and irrational. You are not the right person to ask here and your opinion has hardly any value.

          BTW: it’s not eugenics, but euthanasia. Which is granted to every sick animal. Get your facts straight.

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            1 year ago

            Euthanasia is for people who want to die. Not for murdering babies with special needs.

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                  1 year ago

                  How am I arguing illogical?

                  Seriously, explain to me, how can anybody want to create a life that is objectively way at the lower end of quality of life? How can you justify shelling out thousands of euro/dollar/whatever for such a person, while others are left more or less to die?

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                  1 year ago

                  Would you ask an alcoholic, whether alcohol is good?

                  Or a Christian if Jesus is the son of God?

                  Or someone with a Cat in New Zealand whether that’s a good idea?

                  Emotional attachment clouds judgment.

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                    1 year ago

                    Euthanasia is for people who want to die. Not for murdering babies with special needs.

                    You’re hardly qualified to judge that.

                    You do not know how that person reached their conclusions. For all you know, it might be an ethical framework you know shit about, or the verification that plenty of human beings will often assume incapacity to live an adequate life rather than a rational analysis of all viable options.

                    Emotional attachment clouds judgment.

                    All humans are subject to rationalize as the result of their emotions rather than to actually reason. I’m going to go ahead and use your scale of acceptable evidence to judge whether other people are rational or not and assume that you’re irrational because your narcissism prevents you from analyzing the biases you’ll easily assume are clouding anyone else’s judgement.

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        11 months ago

        A life of misery onto the child

        You know that just because the kid might have a chance to develop mental disabilities doesn’t mean the child is going to have a life of ‘‘misery’’ the child might be able to live a full life, the child might require a bit of support or might require alot of support depending on the severity of the child’s mental disabilities

        Plus who the fuck are you to decide whenever a life is worth living or not. This decision in this very specific situation should be upto both the parents and doctors