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    23 hours ago

    That’s what you took from that entire statement?

    OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem. Have a nice day.

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      23 hours ago

      OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem.

      Yeah, I’m not willing to pretend that untrustworthy primaries are trustworthy, and you consider that a problem.

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        23 hours ago

        If arguing against strawmen makes you feel good then you can continue doing that. I know righteousness feels good but you’re completely missing the point.

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          23 hours ago

          I pointed out a problem. I admit I don’t know a solution for it, but I consider the party’s lack of credibility to be the most immediate problem it needs to overcome in order to pose a serious threat to republicans.

          So, I asked what your solution was, and you were like “I organize! Be a prepper! Mutual aid!” None of which actually address the problem we were talking about.

          How do we restore trust in democratic primaries? I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?

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            23 hours ago

            How do we restore trust in democratic primaries?

            Now that’s actual real question that contributes to the conversation.

            I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?

            I’ll tell whiny little crybabies to shut up all day long if they’re not contributing shit. You should try it, it’s harder than snarky thought-terminating cliches but you can make actual progress that way.

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              22 hours ago

              Now that’s actual real question that contributes to the conversation.

              It’s core to everything I’ve been saying so far. So what’s your solution? I don’t have one, which means I must be silent about the problem. But you surely have a solution, right? You need solutions to talk about problems, or you’re a whiny little crybaby who isn’t contributing shit, in your words.

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                22 hours ago

                Organize offline, meet people in your community, shitposting online isn’t going to do anything. Reference my previous comment, organize locally with like minded people and start preparing for things to get really bad.

                ORGANIZE IN REAL LIFE AND STOP NAYSAYING ANY ATTEMPTS AT PROGRESS.

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                  22 hours ago

                  Nope, you demanded concrete steps from me. I want them from you. “Talk to people in your community and become a prepper” isn’t a solution, it’s a dismissal. It does nothing to restore trust in the party, but that’s not the idea. The idea is silence.

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                    22 hours ago

                    Organizing and acting is how you accomplish goals.

                    That you see organizing and establishing community as “dismissal” and “prepping” speaks volumes.

                    We’ve made great strides locally, what used to be a “queer hiking group” is now talking about secure communications and organizing a range day soon. We’re making actual progress and forming a support network for our friends and families. But yeah I’m not doing anything and your demoralizing progressive voters online is going to accomplish a lot.

                    Edit: I can give you more concrete steps if you’d like. If you’re willing to give me a rough geographic location I can probably even locate existing group(s) around you that would likely be receptive to help