Where is the outrage? Where have all the “humans” gone? Israel slaughtered over 400 innocent civilians in Gaza last night. Most of them women and children.

None of those with #Ukraine, #Canada, #Mexico and #EU flags on their profile raising their voice condemning this outrageous crime.

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The sheikh wandered around the city with a lamp

I’m tired of all the devils and the death, and seeking one human

They said it cannot be found, we have searched, As we said before

That which cannot be found I desire

Rumi
دی شیخ با چراغ همی‌ گشت گرد شهر
کز دیو و دد ملولم و انسانم آرزوست

گفتند یافت می‌ نشود جسته‌ ایم ما گفت
آن که یافت می‌ نشود آنم آرزوست
#poetry #Rumi #Gaza #Inhumanity #Death #politics #Israel #Genocide #WarCrime
@[email protected] @[email protected] @israel @iran

    • vvilld@lemmy.world
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      First, you were never asked to vote for Biden last year. He literally never appeared on any ballots. Not a single person voted for Biden last year. So your entire point here is fucking moot.

      Second, nobody is asking you to get married to who you vote for. You aren’t required to support every word they’ve ever said. You aren’t even required to support a single thing they do. American elections are a binary choice between the lesser of two evils. That’s how they’ve ALWAYS been. You pick the least bad of two bad options, and Harris was objectively less bad than Trump in every degree. If your candidate wins, you get to work fighting against the lesser evil that defeated the greater one. I’ve been voting for 21 years now and every single election I had to hold my nose and vote for someone I didn’t like because the other option was worse. This election wasn’t about you. Get over yourself and grow the fuck up.

      Third, electoral politics shouldn’t define your life or even the extent of your participation in politics. It’s a single theater of political action among MANY. I was out there before the election in the streets protesting the Democratic ticket’s support of the Gaza Genocide. I also recognized that putting Harris in the White House over Trump would have been better on MANY other issues (women’s healthcare, trans rights, the economy, jobs for federal workers, cost of living, etc, etc). I’m not so petty and self-centered to delude myself into believing one single issue was the only thing that mattered in the entire election.

      Nobody is saying Democrats are great or even good. They fucking suck. We don’t have good options in our electoral politics. We never have. That’s why you need to engage in other forms of politics, too. Your entire “I couldn’t vote for genocide Joe” bullshit is just self-indulgence. It’s childish.

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        Where is your personal red line? Do you even have one?

        Seriously. I’m asking you. What is your personal red line? What would a Democrat have to do to not get your vote, assuming the Republican running against them was a little worse?

        Do you have one? Is there ANY behavior you won’t accept, so long as a Democrat is a little bit better than the opposing Republican?

        Or would you happily endorse a literal Holocaust as long as it was a bipartisan affair?

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          This argument isn’t even relevant because the premise that Trump was just a little worse than Harris is incredibly disingenuous.

          You might have a point if the two were really that close, but the reality is that Kamala was just not as left as you’d like her to be.

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          I don’t see voting for one of the two in a binary as an endorsement of everything that candidate stands for. You’re acting as if not voting sends a message. It doesn’t it’s literally the opposite of sending a message. It’s refusing to have a voice at all. You’re not condemning the system by not voting. You’re saying you’re perfectly OK with either of the two outcomes. I’m saying I’m not OK with one of them.

          You’re also speaking as if voting is the only possible way to engage in politics. It happens twice a year (in years with both primary and general elections). What are you doing the other 363 days? Are you just sitting by and letting whatever happens happen?

          For me, personally, voting is an EXTREMELY minor part of my engagement with politics. I also participate in protests regularly. Ever since my early 20s (late 30s now) I’ve made a point of attending at least 1 protest every month. For the past 8 years, it’s been closer to weekly than monthly. I donate a lot of money to different groups, mostly a local abortion fund and bail fund for activists, but I change it up when the need is there. I make food for a local Food not Bombs and help serve when I can (although that’s infrequently due to my work schedule and the fact I have kids).

          This is not an exhaustive list of my political activities, but it helps paint the picture.

          Tell me, if your vote is so direly precious that you’re unwilling to give it away to the lesser of two evils in a binary choice where “none” is not an option, how do you engage with politics? What do you do to help improve the lives of the people in your community? Or are you just trying to shitpost a revolution into happening?

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        he never appeared on any ballots

        THEN WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME VOTING FOR HIM!? that is what I was saying! nobody gave me the option! you can’t even be bothered to remember who you ran, so it feels like this is just an excuse to be angry, as if being angry at people and badgering them will make them agree with you. it won’t. I didn’t read the rest. I did kind of skim it, and didn’t see anything I haven’t read a hundred times before. im really sick of it, dude. everyone is.

        and there’s kind of actually important stuff going on. fascism, genocides, the restructuring of geopolitical balances, pandemics, food shortages, fascism, genocides. it’s, like, a thing. and here you’re complaining about people having some bare minimum moral line they would not dip below. kind of makes you look like an asshole who doesn’t care about any of that stuff, and only really cares about your team keeping power.

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          You’re the one who kept repeating “I literally could not vote for genocide joe.” The comment I replied to was just that in all caps, which you have since edited to completely change. You are the one who keeps bringing up Biden. You say nobody gave you an option? Harris was right there on the ballot, not the guy you said you literally could not vote for.

          I also don’t understand why you choose to repeatedly misconstrue my political leanings, referring to “who you ran” or “your team”. I didn’t run Harris. The Democrats aren’t my team. They were just the lead bad of two options.

          And why is voting for the least bad of two terrible choices “some bare minimum moral line”? Your vote isn’t some precious flower you can only give away to your one true love or some bullshit. It’s a fucking vote. All it means is “I think this person is the least bad option available.” You don’t have to structure your entire ideological belief structure around who you vote for. You vote for whichever candidate you think you can work to push in the right direction, then get back to life.

          For me, personally, voting is an EXTREMELY minor part of my engagement with politics. I also participate in protests regularly. Ever since my early 20s (late 30s now) I’ve made a point of attending at least 1 protest every month. For the past 8 years, it’s been closer to weekly than monthly. I donate a lot of money to different groups, mostly a local abortion fund and bail fund for activists, but I change it up when the need is there. I make food for a local Food not Bombs and help serve when I can (although that’s infrequently due to my work schedule and the fact I have kids).

          This is not an exhaustive list of my political activities, but it helps paint the picture.

          Tell me, if your vote is so direly precious that you’re unwilling to give it away to the lesser of two evils in a binary choice where “none” is not an option, how do you engage with politics? What do you do to help improve the lives of the people in your community? Or is pretending like you have moral superiority over others by not participating in politics the extent of it?

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            I was commenting after one of you people said ‘genocide joe’ in the context of voting for him. seeing how long it took to catch on about the fact that the thing you guys were saying to do wasn’t on my ballot. I didn’t read the rest of your thing. sorry.

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                no, see, the joke is you and your position being fundamentally unserious even on your own terms. I don’t know how to fix it, but im pretty sure, at least on the palestine thing, voting doesn’t matter. treaties don’t matter. protests probably don’t matter.

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                  You don’t even know my position because, by your own admission, you refuse to read my comments.