Regardless of if it’s practical to live that way in daily life, the world seems pretty determined. Everything happens because a vast amount of interactions between infinite factors causes it to. You can’t really say you choose between things as many influences have been taken in by you and many things have affected your psychological state. Has everything been practically decided by the big bang? Now, this is not to say we can know everything or predict the future, but we know what’s likely. Socialism or extinction may be inevitable, but we don’t know yet. Socialism can only happen if people keep fighting, regardless. People will be convinced or principled or not. Science seems to agree with this, and only few, like the wrong Sartre would propose we have ultimate free will. So are there any arguments against determinism? I know there is a saying that you’re freer when you recognize how your freedom is restricted, and that recognition may make your actions better, but isn’t there ultimately no freedom?

  • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    The thing I think you’re missing with the quantum angle is that its unknowable currently but that doesnt mean its unknowable, we might get to a point where that level of computation is possible for us to work out. I think the best way to put it is ‘no current models can predict this but thats not to say a model couldnt feasibly scale up large enough to work it out’; its something that might be a frontier we can work out if quantum computers ever become a feasable thing to apply to this.

    Thats not to say it will disprove free will, it might very well become a ‘shit we need a post-quantum quantum computer for this’

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      I agree with you, it is a principle of materialism that the world and its laws are knowable, we constantly prove this concept by scientific advancements.

      Certain mysteries of nature may seem impossible to understand currently, but in 1000 years they may already be solved