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  • 01011@monero.town
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    20 hours ago

    How about fuck all that nasty ass processed crap? Or is it only wrong when the Americans do it?

    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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      No fuck it. I’ll never understand how people are so obsessed with something like nutella so much that they don’t even care what it is. I’m pretty sure most people you ask tell you it’s chocolate. It’s palm oil hazelnut shit.

  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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    23 hours ago

    “Hey siri, give me a list of all the terrorist and militant groups that have killed more innocent people and destabilized more countries in a fragile position than Nestle willingly has purely in the pursuit of more profit?”

    • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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      I have a godly pizza recipe

      Ingredients for the dough:  
      
      400 g flour (type 500 or 00)  
      280 ml water  
      2 tablespoons olive oil  
      1 teaspoon salt  
      8 g fresh yeast  
      
      DOUGH PREPARATION  
      
      Pizza dough preparation process:  
      
      Mix water, which should be at room temperature, with olive oil. Add salt and crumble the yeast. Stir to dissolve the yeast and let stand for about 10 minutes.
      Pour the mixture into a bowl with flour and knead for about 20 minutes to obtain a soft, smooth and elastic dough.  
      
      If necessary, you can add a little more water or flour while kneading.  
      
      Shape the kneaded dough into a smooth loaf. Place it in a floured bowl and cover well so that it does not dry out during the rising process.  
      
      First, let the dough rise for one hour at room temperature, then transfer it to the refrigerator for 48 hours.  
      
      After 48 hours, remove it from the refrigerator and let it rise for one hour at room temperature.
      Then take the dough out of the bowl and divide it into two loaves, if desired, for two pizzas. Brush the tops of the loaves with olive oil, cover with clear plastic wrap and let rise for another hour.  
      
      Stretch the risen dough with your hands, forming a circle with your palms, from the center to the edge. To make it easier, you can also oil your hands a little.
      Finally, use your fingers to form a few millimeters thick edge.  
       
      Note: The dough can also rise overnight or for 24 hours.  
      

      Bake on 270°C preferably on a pizza stone if you have one.

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      22 hours ago

      I mean no one’s replacing Dr oetker frozen pizzas with home made, the whole point of them is they’re pretty cheap and you can throw them in the oven for a quick meal. Not saying you shouldn’t make home made pizzas, these frozen ones are not good and also not very healthy, but I don’t think this is one of those things you can directly replace with a home made version, the home made you’ll make for a proper dinner or something. Maybe replace the frozen pizzas with something else that’s equally quick/easy but more home made though.

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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        I mean, i do. It’s quickly made if you buy the dough.

        Then again, since i live alone, i started to assess meals by their nutritional value vs. calories, since you can only eat so much a day and i want to lose weight. It’s second nature now and that might not be typical.

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          I’m right there with you, least year I lost 35kg by counting calories, and now I’m maintaining and working out, so while I don’t count anymore I’m still following the principles I learned thought that and these premade pizzas are off the menu… I’m just being realistic about how these frozen pizzas are used by folks who don’t do that (they used to be my favourite quick lunch options in my pre-diet life). Your recipe included making the dough which is what really pushed it out of the realm of realistic.

      • Camelbeard@lemmy.world
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        20 hours ago

        My goto frozen pizza “hack”, just get the cheapest most basic pizza margherita, skip known brands and go for the housebrand/offbrand.

        Buy some quality toppings and add them, like a spicey salami, aged cheese, etc.

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    2 days ago

    Dr Oetker is european; and it isn’t Nestlè

    so that’s two points it has over Wagner :)

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      2 days ago

      Wagner also committed war crimes in Ukraine. Or so I’ve heard.

    • staz2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Dr Oerker was founded by a nazi. Probably still controlled and owned by nazis. Check Wikipedia for their family history.

      Edit: not all German companies, this one specifically, check my answer below for details. Also some companies supported and profited from the nazi regime but aren’t affiliated anymore. They changed ownership, renounced their past and the ideology and eventually made reparations. I don’t believe this is the case with Dr Oetker but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

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          Definitely not, lot of good German companies. on my phone so didn’t make a detailed essay, which is why I encouraged you to read Wikipedia.

          For those who can’t be bothered:

          During the 1930s and 1940s, Rudolf-August Oetker was an active member of the Waffen-SS of the Third Reich. The company supported the war effort by providing pudding mixes and munitions to German troops. The business used slave labour in some of its facilities. A bronze bust of Richard Kaselowsky still sits within the company headquarters in Bielefeld. Kaselowsky was killed during an air raid on Bielefeld in 1944.[2] The Oetker Family is among those German families, who have profited most from their close relations to the Nazi regime.[3]

          I have to correct the original founder might not be a nazi. His grand son defined was.

          The company is still privately held by the same family, and controlled

          Richard Oetker, August Oetker’s brother, took over as CEO in 2010.

          Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Oetke

          Edit: before someone try to paint me as some anti German strawman. I like Germany, and went there multiple time, for works, vacation and the ccc congresses and camps And it actually pained me to learn the company history because I actually liked their pizza.

  • Owl@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    as an avid frozen pizza enjoyer, both of these suck, taste wise

  • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.uk
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    1 day ago

    Came here to suggest an alternative: Crosta & Mollica

    As far as I can tell they’re even from Italy.

    We kinda get the best of both worlds: we just get the bases and make what we want so the speed of a ready made pizza, but the flavours of home made.

    But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

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      The Crosta & Mollica Stromboli has ruined all other pizza for me. It’s infinitely superior to everything except perhaps a genuine Italian fresh from the pizza oven.

    • zqps@sh.itjust.works
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      23 hours ago

      Yes pineapple, in moderation.

      The meme is funny, but also quite silly. Contrasting savory and sweet tastes is a staple of Italian cuisine.

    • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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      But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

      You’re one of those sociopaths that puts kiwi on your pizza aren’t you?!

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            @Sturgist @IsoKiero my Swedish friend introduced me to Flying Jacob and that stuff is so wrong and yet so right. What is it with Swedes and weird banana recipes

            Also, a vote here for Goodfellas pizza (Birdseye). Very average but better than Dr Oetker by a country mile and the gluten free one is pretty decent

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                24 hours ago

                I honestly have no idea. From wikipedia:

                Flying Jacob Swedish casserole composed of chicken, whipping cream, chili sauce, bananas, roasted peanuts, bacon and Italian salad seasoning, which is a peculiar seasoning blend available only in Sweden. The dish is baked in an oven and is usually served with rice and a salad.

                That didn’t help much on understanding it. And those are just your regular banans, not the kind you can get from chinese restaurant or something like that.

                • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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                  23 hours ago

                  Plantains? But smaller, bit more bitter, absolutely banging in a Jamaican curry? Or fried…fuck…now I’m hungry…

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                  23 hours ago

                  That sounds hideous.

                  One thing I grew up eating, and I know a few other people who did as well, we all seem to be from North American families of Scottish descent, but have been in NA for the Great Depression…

                  Peanut butter and mayo sandwiches. I know it sounds disgusting, but it is legitimately good. Big glass of milk of the side.

      • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.uk
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        1 day ago

        Kiwis, no… Australians… maybe (jk)

        No, I’m a firm believer in meat and spice on a pizza: 'nduja, jalepeños and chorizo are my usual

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          Fair enough pal, that sounds exactly like my standard zza…except I do actually put pineapple on mine. Instead of chunks I use pulped, strain as much juice out as I can manage, and lightly sprinkle some on. And some baby spinach under the cheese…

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    We were feeling more united than ever is this community but you decided to start a fight with our Italian friends? Why???