There is no way to know what a buyer will want to do with the reams of genetic information it has collected. Customers, meanwhile, still have no way to change their underlying genetic data.
While I do agree its a bit whack, I question if everything needs 100% safety to be legal?
If someone offers a dangerous thing and you sign a waiver, maybe motocross, if you get injured is it the owners fault? Why should an individual be free from onus?
New Zealand understands this, you can sign away a companies liability to yourself. For adventure tourism stuff mostly. It’s a good and fair way to do things I think.
Yea that’s kinda what I was thinking. Digital safety should be up to the individual, big companies should be fined and held accountable to the data they collect.
Its why I’m on Lemmy, I host my own instance and thus I own the data. I’ve moved my email and cloud backups to instances I own as well. I understand I’m a bit privileged that I can do such things, but I plan on helping others setup their own needs online if I can.
Unfortunately we’ve been on autopilot just taking online products and folding them into our lives without much forethought to the outcomes. Didn’t know democracy was at threat, but with hindsight it makes sense. Power is moving up the chain of command and could be lost to us labourers for the foreseeable future unless we take it back through our data.
Nah. Motocross has an obvious physical risk. Collecting your private info through shady and innocuous legal agreements is horse shit. It would be one thing if they were sworn to do good with the data or something but we know they only want to use it to enrich themselves. The fines would need to be severe like say the 21 and me people should be put under the prison
I’m a software developer, and I tell people on the daily you need to protect your data and have many times said not to give DNA to anyone unless it can save your life. 21 and me is gross as a business model and should not be a thing and I also strongly agree they need to be put into prison
I’m peeling back the tech-oligarchies hold on me by getting rid of Google and the other big boys. I’m fortunate I can spin up SMTP server (MailCow) and cloud storage (NextCloud) using free and open source software (FOSS). But I encourage others to do the same if they can. SMTP is a tough nut to crack, maintaining servers is also a bit of a task. But any technologist that knows web servers (Docker, VM) and DNS can set up shit using elest.io/managed-services
I don’t think it is reasonable to expect every individual to become a privacy / legal expert. I think people should have reasonable protections and assurances given to them without needing to study the details of everything they do on a case-by-case basis.
We have laws about what food can and cannot be sold - so that individuals don’t have to personally test and monitor every product for safety. Privacy & data could be done like that too.
I don’t agree with that at all, if you don’t or can’t understand the terms of a contract, you sign at your own peril, expecting the government to step in everytime a person decides to excercise their stupidity is authoritarian and leads to a bloated, innefficient system. This thinking just makes contracts meaningless, it just means you can claim ignorance everytime you sign into a contract you don’t like.
Regulating food is whole different game for a number of reasons, i dont think it’s a reasonable comparison.
“The fuck else were these people expecting” is also my visceral reaction whenever shit like that happens, but if I think about for a bit longer, I realize that it’s not much different than saying “The fuck else were you expecting” to a rape victim who went alone into a dark alley. Sure, people are stupid for engaging with this obvious scam, but the bad guy is still the scammer, not the victims.
No one has any right to complain, this possibility is clearly outlined in the t&c’s every person agreed to.
Shouldn’t have handed out your defining essence to a corporation.
What about those of us who are related to the people who took the test, and never consented to the t&c? They have our data, too.
Blame the person you are related to. Duh.
Kinda wacked out take. Onus shouldnt be on the individual
While I do agree its a bit whack, I question if everything needs 100% safety to be legal?
If someone offers a dangerous thing and you sign a waiver, maybe motocross, if you get injured is it the owners fault? Why should an individual be free from onus?
New Zealand understands this, you can sign away a companies liability to yourself. For adventure tourism stuff mostly. It’s a good and fair way to do things I think.
Yea that’s kinda what I was thinking. Digital safety should be up to the individual, big companies should be fined and held accountable to the data they collect.
Its why I’m on Lemmy, I host my own instance and thus I own the data. I’ve moved my email and cloud backups to instances I own as well. I understand I’m a bit privileged that I can do such things, but I plan on helping others setup their own needs online if I can.
Unfortunately we’ve been on autopilot just taking online products and folding them into our lives without much forethought to the outcomes. Didn’t know democracy was at threat, but with hindsight it makes sense. Power is moving up the chain of command and could be lost to us labourers for the foreseeable future unless we take it back through our data.
Nah. Motocross has an obvious physical risk. Collecting your private info through shady and innocuous legal agreements is horse shit. It would be one thing if they were sworn to do good with the data or something but we know they only want to use it to enrich themselves. The fines would need to be severe like say the 21 and me people should be put under the prison
I’m a software developer, and I tell people on the daily you need to protect your data and have many times said not to give DNA to anyone unless it can save your life. 21 and me is gross as a business model and should not be a thing and I also strongly agree they need to be put into prison
I’m peeling back the tech-oligarchies hold on me by getting rid of Google and the other big boys. I’m fortunate I can spin up SMTP server (MailCow) and cloud storage (NextCloud) using free and open source software (FOSS). But I encourage others to do the same if they can. SMTP is a tough nut to crack, maintaining servers is also a bit of a task. But any technologist that knows web servers (Docker, VM) and DNS can set up shit using elest.io/managed-services
Who should be responsible for these people agreeing to a contract and then not wanting to honour the contracts terms?
If personal responsibilty is “a whacked out take” then I’ll take that.
I don’t think it is reasonable to expect every individual to become a privacy / legal expert. I think people should have reasonable protections and assurances given to them without needing to study the details of everything they do on a case-by-case basis.
We have laws about what food can and cannot be sold - so that individuals don’t have to personally test and monitor every product for safety. Privacy & data could be done like that too.
I don’t agree with that at all, if you don’t or can’t understand the terms of a contract, you sign at your own peril, expecting the government to step in everytime a person decides to excercise their stupidity is authoritarian and leads to a bloated, innefficient system. This thinking just makes contracts meaningless, it just means you can claim ignorance everytime you sign into a contract you don’t like.
Regulating food is whole different game for a number of reasons, i dont think it’s a reasonable comparison.
“The fuck else were these people expecting” is also my visceral reaction whenever shit like that happens, but if I think about for a bit longer, I realize that it’s not much different than saying “The fuck else were you expecting” to a rape victim who went alone into a dark alley. Sure, people are stupid for engaging with this obvious scam, but the bad guy is still the scammer, not the victims.
A rape victim didn’t sign a contract saying that would happen if they went dont that alley. That’s the difference.
There is no bad guy in this case, just an idiot and a company.
Ok, either you let this slide, or I personnally strangle every living lawyers.
What?
What, "what? "
What did you not understand? I think I was very clear, use your words.
Nah, can’t have been too important.