• dhork@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This is why it’s essential for those debates to happen. Yes, both men are declining mentally, but Biden can at least make a coherent argument, even if he mixes up names sometimes.

    There is no excuse for either candidate to avoid debates anymore. we need to hear them talk, without prepared speeches. I will take Biden’s odds on that over Trump’s any day.

    If Biden wins this thing, I think history will find that the reason he beat Trump twice was that he was not at all intimidated by him. He takes Trump seriously, but also has the courage to call him out for the liar he is, convincingly, without dismissing his supporters as a bunch of losers. That takes a bit of confidence that only age can bring. Maybe Bernie could have done it, but I don’t think any other candidate could. Clinton absolutely failed at that.

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            My point is they’re both fucking 80. It’s really silly to ascribe one decline to age and another to drugs. Anyways Trumps still better at the snappy comeback, Biden never had that anyways, so the presidential debate is gonna be sad as fuck.

            Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now

            That’s just a straight up lie. maybe 5 years and I’m not yet convinced it’s not because it seems to work.

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        I agree with all of that. His issues go beyond his stutter, though. His mouth has always been a step or two ahead of his brain, and he got himself into trouble in the past saying stupid shit. He has run for President for years and years, and couldn’t win until Trump made it OK to say stupid stuff.

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        4 months ago

        The person in the chair stopped being important quite a while ago. Now both parties just have lists of smart/rich people willing to implement their specific policies, and they try not to fire critically important gov employees.

        I’m not both siding the issue. One side attracts all the Nazis and KKK.