• Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: it’s technically impossible as Canada looks a lot like the US in many ways which goes against EU regulations. For instance, if Canada would join the EU, many cars won’t be allowed on the road anymore due to EU road safety laws. Same shit with food production. It doesn’t meet EU standards, which means most Canadian food production cannot be sold, so most farms would need to drastically change or go bankrupt. These are just 2 examples of many issues why Canada can’t just join the EU. Best possible outcome would be Schengen economic zone membership. Canada needs to change so drastically before EU membership can even be considered, it is almost, if not completely, impossible.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d love Canada to join us, I just don’t see how.

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      3 days ago

      I’m 100% sure all the old Soviet vans in Romania aren’t up to current EU standards. Presumably things like that get grandfathered in.

      Food regulations are different, but not “drastically”. I’m sure we could manage, although the farmers would act like farmers about it. Ditto for all the other regulations. It will take us a moment to move into compliance, though, so our politicians have their work cut out for them.

      So that’s the EEA stuff out of the way. The Schengen zone for freedom of movement is actually bigger, because it makes problems at the US border, which is the longest border in the world and literally has buildings halfway across it. Still, if they keep acting like this, it can be overcome. The only thing left to do is to get Canadians other than me into watching Eurovision.

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        Ah, but old vehicles are listed as oldtimers and therefore rules apply only limited. But modern cars which aren’t up to standard to EU regulations are not allowed on the road. And because US standards are different, many American cars, even European cars made for export to the Americas, may not meet EU standards. Also, developing countries have a period to adjust to EU standards but Canada isn’t a developing country so it cannot enjoy those exemptions.

        Food regulations are indeed drastically different. Crops used in the US and Canada are not up to EU standards. Switching is nearly impossible due to nasty Monsanto patents. When you used it once on your land, or a neighbor used it and pollen blew over to your crops, you’re forced to use Monsanto crops or face being sued into bankruptcy.

        Maybe build a wall and make the US pay for it eh. Australia is already watching and joined eurovision, where the hell is Canada? At least Celine Dion already won once, that counts for something, right buddy?

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          Maybe build a wall and make the US pay for it eh. Australia is already watching and joined eurovision, where the hell is Canada? At least Celine Dion already won once, that counts for something, right buddy?

          I hope this is intended in a friendly tone. The Canadianisms can slide into sounding mocking pretty easily.

          Ah, but old vehicles are listed as oldtimers and therefore rules apply only limited. But modern cars which aren’t up to standard to EU regulations are not allowed on the road. And because US standards are different, many American cars, even European cars made for export to the Americas, may not meet EU standards.

          North American companies export compliant cars to Europe, as well. Presumably, we could just start selling those versions here. Assuming we still have an industry, anyway - if the tariffs get high enough production just stops and we’re building a new single-country industry from scratch anyway.

          Can you provide a source that this applies to already in-use cars? I can’t imagine the regulations are written to instantly require all old cars off the road in a new member, because that wouldn’t make sense. What I’ve found only applies to new cars, or only to ones that have to be scrapped.

          Also, developing countries have a period to adjust to EU standards but Canada isn’t a developing country so it cannot enjoy those exemptions.

          If that is indeed the case, we can always adjust and then apply after, if it would take too long otherwise. Australia is apparently in the process with their own vehicles.

          Switching is nearly impossible due to nasty Monsanto patents. When you used it once on your land, or a neighbor used it and pollen blew over to your crops, you’re forced to use Monsanto crops or face being sued into bankruptcy.

          As someone in a farming area, that’s a massive exaggeration. People can and do switch seeds all the time. You hear more complaints about John Deere tractors and their anti-competitive practices.

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      3 days ago

      And for said reasons I don’t want to join the EU. I’d way rather join similar to Iceland.

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        2 days ago

        So? Ever heard of colonialism? Greenland and French Guiana are European too. So are the Dutch islands in the Caribbean. Many parts of the world were European once. French Guiana is a part of the European Union where it’s inhabitants get EU passports and pay with the euro. The Netherlands and France share a border, on the island of Saint Martin. Canada was European too when it was a part of the Commonwealth. Let them join again but this time independent.