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read my comment if you don’t understand instead of just making things up and extrapolating.
the racism and subsequent cultural insensitivity is explained very clearly and everybody else who has commented understands it.
I read:
Which tells me that you do believe that this frame is racist. If you didn’t mean that when the other commenter interpreted you as saying that, then you missed your opportunity to make yourself clear.
Regardless, I don’t think a cartoon character having some racist episodes is equivalent to the character itself being racist, and I definitely don’t think it means that character shouldn’t be used for anything. It seems like you don’t make that distinction (again, here’s an opportunity to clarify your position if that is inaccurate).
“which tells me…”
literally the next sentence explains your out of context quote.
read all of the comments and the whole of each comment if you’re going to respond to them.
right now you’re just making things up or assuming things and then extrapolating on your make believe.
as long as you keep making things up, I’m going to point out the things that you’re making up.
I did read that part too :) however it doesn’t logically follow that if you recognize that some episodes are racist that this makes this frame also racist. That is the logical leap you have yet to explain.
It seems you are much more interested in accusing others of making assumptions than you are at actually clearing up any misunderstandings in what you are saying - which I don’t think I’m particularly unjustified in saying is a self inflicted problem.
You know you can actually just reply with “Hi, I didn’t actually mean that but here’s how I am considering this specific frame as racist” instead of getting all aggro. You know you have an actual chance of communicating your point when people ask you to clarify - yet instead you seem all to eager to throw that away. You’re really shooting yourself in the foot in this discussion.
“it doesn’t logically follow…this frame…”
of course it doesn’t, that’s something you made up.
I don’t need to clear anything up for your imaginary argument.
“how i am… considering this…racist”.
very clearly laid out above, you’re the only one pretending not to understand.
you can keep trying to change what I said, but the public record is above so it ain’t gonna work, Jack.
Since you seem to think I am pretending to misunderstand you, I’ll lay it out nice and simple and ask yet again for you to correct me where I am assuming wrong. Let’s break it down:
When you reply to them saying they aren’t sure how you could take this frame as racist by responding with “yes you are”, are you not saying that “you know how this frame is racist” and therefore stating that you believe this frame is racist?
“I’ll lay it out…”
and then you literally repeat your false assumption and extrapolation.
again, not going to get you anywhere.
you are either not reading or ignoring my comments before responding to them. all you have to do is read what you are writing carefully and what I wrote to find 1) your fabrication or 2) my very clear explanation and OPs admission of the racism that he and others are not bothered by, while I am.
I’m not sure if you’re looking for 1 or 2, although yes it does seem like you’re just pretending not to understand either since both of them are written so clearly.
if you actually have such severe trouble with reading comprehension and can only fixate on single sentences taken out of context:
once you realize which part of your question you are fabricating that is not in my comments, as it is the foundation of your atgument, you’ll notice how you’re invalidating your own questions and argument.
I’m literally making the extrapolation in order to ask you if I understand correctly - literally so that you have the opportunity to correct my interpretation of your position before I get too far into responding - yet you seem extremely unwilling to engage with it besides saying that I am still misunderstanding you.
It sounds like I initially misunderstood you to be saying that you believed this specific image was racist - it would have been a lot faster for you to just say that I interpreted your comment wrong instead of accusing me of malice and avoiding any clarification that could tell me what part of my assumption was wrong.
If you do not believe this specific frame is racist but it’s solely the problematic episodes that make this use problematic, you can just say so. There is nothing wrong with being misunderstood, that’s not on you and any fair person wouldn’t hold that against you. But if you never actually clarify then there can be no discussion. Unless you prefer that people continue to misunderstand you. Genuinely trying to be charitable here by trying to hear out your reasoning, but it feels impossible to actually discuss anything when any every attempt to understand what the other side is met with “you are being obtuse and/or deliberately misunderstanding and all I will say is keep reading my existing comments”. That gets us nowhere, and I honestly think you would have been better received in this comments section if you weren’t so defensive.
“literally making the extrapolation in order to ask you if I understand correctly”
there is no reason for you to fabricate, assume or extrapolate in order to ask if you understand something correctly.
you are taking those extra steps so that you can repeat your false assumptions and extrapolations.
but again, the record is above.
“…trying to be charitable…”
no you are not, you are repeating a false accusation so that your false questions look valid, despite their lack of foundation in the material.
“trying to hear out your reasoning”
my reasoning is very clearly laid out in the above comments.
if there is something you genuinely don’t understand, you can directly ask about those comments you don’t understand without any attached assumptions or fabrications.
don’t make things up, stop extrapolating on the things you make up and ask a direct question.
or take a hike.