Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that’s a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a <ferengi>female</ferengi> with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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    Man if this is the official stance for this sub I’m fucking out. Y’all enjoy your fucking thirst trap ads lol

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      But who cares if it’s technically an ad? You still get the porn content you previously wouldn’t get. No one’s forcing you to pay for the extra stuff.

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        First because it’s annoying. I sub to things for content, not links to “better content” behind a pay wall.

        If I wanted that I’d just go get on OF and never come to places like this.

        Second, it’s disingenuous. I just reported another post as an example as to why it’s bad for content. If they can scrape OF subscribers off of here, why would they reveal anything for free? Post a pretty face pic and throw their OF link in so you go spend there.

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            And you can do both where they belong. It’s advertising, spam, whatever you want to call it.

            This isn’t a paid service or subscription platform. If I want to seek you out to give you money I’ll do that, but I’m not here for it and it should have its own sub dedicated to that type of content.

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                I’m saying if you so choose, please by all means share wherever you want that don’t break any rules.

                My understanding of these kinds of communities is that they are for voyeur, amateur posts. The advent of places like OF has muddied that intent.

                Do I think you should not be able to post here with some kind of third party paid service link? Absolutely.

                And if the admins decide that it is allowed? Cool man great you all, have fun. I’ll leave though, because I don’t like it. There are plenty of places on the internet to get this kind of content and I won’t subject myself to spam links to see some boobs in my feed as I scroll through this place.

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        I’ll fap to many things, but 20 identical posts with stupid questions as title because it drives engagement, posted in random subs that it doesn’t even remotely fit in, I won’t fap to! I have my dignity!

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    This is the correct take. Is it any surprise that OF models generate a lot of nsfw content? Unless the users posting is too frequent, it’s not spam. If a painter links to their webpage on a post where they share their art do we cry spam? Treating their content like spam entirely on the grounds of them being OF models is honestly pretty sex negative. Y’all should support the idea of sex workers having control of their own content.

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    Thanks for saying this…♥️ I’ve been saying this too. Obviously spammy posts within the communities is a turn off. Having a link in our bios to try to earn because we are posting FREE NUDITY is reasonable and necessary.

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      it’s not free though, if you only do it in return for an advertising space. It’s a business and means nothing to many people.

      I personally get no value from your posts. It’s like a beggar playing an instrument on the side of the road to me. I never asked for it, and would never enjoy it nor pay for it.

      Of course it is still spammy when 9 out of 10 posts are ads by 9 different women.

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        That’s valid you’re welcome to feel that way. If your preference is no sellers, there will just be much less oc content💕 if you’d rather see dudes posting stuff that’s fair

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          It’s not OC content to me, when you make money with it.

          I have already jerked to a few dicks here, because there weren’t enough real women lol.

          Sellers might as well not exist. To me they are meaningless. Like an ad on a billboard. Ok, cool. Don’t care. It doesn’t matter how hot they are, and that their OF is $0.01 with no PPV. I’m just not interested.

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      This I’m totaly fine with. I hate being advertised to… really really hate it… … but if i see something i like and there is a subtle link in the message or a comment by OP that is totally fine.

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    The anti-OF posters sound exceedingly hyperbolic. I’m certain there’s a reasonable way to ensure OF/ManyVids/Fansly models are encouraged to post free content here without it consuming the entire site.

    But posters demanding that all OF models be banned entirely sound hella unreasonable.

    Go make your own community and ban OF models from it

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    I have no issue with OF, but i don’t want to be overtly advertised to.

    If i find myself in a /c where OF spam is out of control and the mods don’t wish to do anything about it then I’ll just move on.

    Many NSFW Reddit subs turned to rubbish when OF users spammed the hell out of hundreds of subs, when where there content was not a match for the sub. If this happens here then it will suck as well.

    I’m happy for OF users to post content appropriate to the /c they post in and include a link to their OF in the body or in a following message. But having a pair of tits posted in an anal /c along with 50 other /c’s with “My only fans 50% off right now” as the title… thats spam, clear as day, and it has no place.

    And for those saying its content, there is no need to grow for the sake of growth, let’s rather grow naturally and at a steady pace and maintain some quality.

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    I personally don’t enjoy OF posts at all. Why would I? I don’t enjoy when prostitutes call me cute either. It’s a business for lonely people.

    I post myself, too, but only because I enjoy doing it for free, and because I enjoy genuine reactions by people who also don’t make money with it. If a sex worker with an ad on her profile says " nice dick bro", that doesn’t mean anything to me. My life would have been the same without her comment.

    I don’t mind seeing only few, but legitimate posts either. Imho selling should be contained to separate communities, not the other way round (allowing it by default and needing special places without it).

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    If OF takes a hold of Lemmy like it did Reddit I’ll just defederate from Lemmy all together. Nobody has time for 50 identical posts from the same user only to finish with that user’s posts just in time to pick up another OF user’s 50 identical posts. OF and their repost bot Army ruined entire communities on reddit and they for sure will do the same here if allowed.

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      “Do older guys even like 18yo girls? Teeheehee”

      “My boyfriend made fun of my boobs and says I need implants! Teeheehee”

      “Be honest. Would you smash an 18yo virgin??”

      Lifts top does a small wiggle “see more on my OF” *posts to 30 other communities"

      I’m not mad about it. Y’all should make money on it if you can, but most of this shit is the same and ruined porn on Reddit. I’m sure there’s some that are really into the exhibition of it, and that rocks, but It’ll ruin porn here too.

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      If spam crossposting becomes an issue, we will address it. The reports we are referring to here are mainly against people who are daring to just post links in the body or comments to their OF. It’s not mass crossposting.

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        but that’s why people are mad about it. Give them an inch and they take a mile. You don’t wait for the cancer to take hold. You see it, and you treat it as fast as possible.

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          Can you point out examples where this is happening? Because the mods and admins are unaware.

          Otherwise it sounds you’re suggesting killing healthy cells before they have the chance to become cancer cells, which doesn’t seem like great medical advice. (as far as I know. I’m not a doctor.)

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    Final comment about this because I wanna get off this topic as I’m getting triggered. I’m an exhibitionist AND I need to pay my bills. Idk why I wouldn’t combine those 2 things? I love what I do. I love posting nudes! I love talking to people online. Why wouldnt I try to do that as my job if I love it? The only people that will be seeing my link are the people that click on my profile and find it for themselves. Have a good day everyone 😂😛

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      I think it’s fair for people to be upset when there’s spam on the site. But, we’ve so far had issues with only actual spam but not really any true spam from OF models. It seems so far that content creators have been extra careful on that end. Like, as long as the links are in the body or comments in most communities it is more than fine and thats generally whats been going on currently as far I can see. Sex workers need to make money too and getting instant mass reports on OF models for daring to want to make money off their content they are graciously providing to us for free as a community is downright absurd and deeply annoying to have to sift thru. I can get outright exhibitionist communities, but those need to be clear about such imo.

      Honestly whether people want to admit it or not, we need content creators for this community to thrive and grow. If it becomes any issue in the future then a conversation will be had, but there really isn’t any issue at the moment.

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        I wouldn’t go that far as to say it needs to be banned from the internet. That’s not at all what I’m saying. I’m just tired of every other post being someone try to sell me something. And by every other post I’m talking about reddit. I just don’t what what happened over there to happen here. Like, OF creators, just be realistic in what you post. One or two here or there is one thing. But some bots just spam all the communities like a dog in heat. But also feel this is more on the OF creators to police there own and point out the bad actors that are bot or spamming unrelated community. I don’t there will be one solution that makes everyone happy. I’m just asking to keep the spamming down. I really don’t care if you’re an OF creator, more power to you. But I’m not buying so to me it just looks a bit desperate to try drumming up business in this way. If you were selling well enough already, you wouldn’t feel the need to be advertising yourself on Reddit or Lemmy.

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    What if an OF model posts off-topic content? For example, boob pics to an ass-centric community? To me, that’s just lazy advertising, tantamount to spam, and should therefore be reported.

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        Are you referring to a specific model?

        I was not. I just noticed that some “niche” NSFW communities have, what I consider, lazy (as in OP didn’t bother checking the community’s theme/topic) ad posts to their OF.

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    Are they linking to their profile? If so that’s a defacto ad.

    If I want OF content, I’ll go to OF.

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    I made a clickable list of sellers, if you wish to block them: [email protected]

    It’s only like 100 for now, so doable by hand. For now, it includes some other types of sellers that you can skip, of course.

    This way there is no need to argue, or to harass mods with false reports. Keep in mind that they do this work voluntarily.

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    Definitely. I think everyone is just trigger happy from the cesspool that so many NSFW subs on reddit became. To me there were two problems.

    The first one was just actual spam. Same pictures posted to every sub possible, multiple times a day, all with generic bullshit titles and the same type of “engagement”. That doesn’t seem to be a problem yet, and is a simple one to solve.

    The second, more subjective one is that OF content is just…bad. The same type of pictures, the same videos, all just not appealing. What happened to camgirls? What happened the actual realism of amateur content? That is subjective though, I don’t think you can moderate quality besides upvoting/downvoting.

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    It’s advertising. I don’t care for advertising. It’s like if all food subs were posts by Kraft, Taco Bell, Lays, Ben & Jerry’s, etc.

    If people want to advertise, that’s fine, there are avenues for that. r/gonewild got ruined by being filled to the brim with OF ads. Other communities had to be made to recreate the space that gonewild used to be.

    the basis for r/gonewild was a place for REDDITORS to “go wild”, not for women who are paid to do so, to then create a reddit account so they can have a place to advertise their product (their photos and videos) for free.

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      r/Gonewild has specific rules about no OF posters. To the point that even if your post doesn’t mention OF, but you have one linked in your profile you get banned.

      It made GW worse. Not just because OF creators have better, higher quality content that fits that sub, but also because as I pointed out once to them it was a dumb idea to block people who in most cases of OF creators don’t even monetize, or only do custom content. Otherwise the account is free to follow. Which is an important differentiation since diversifying where you post and where people can find you is a major thing.

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        How is it worse? It’s back to it’s roots and literally back to the reason for the sub in the first place. You know how many “free” OF pages consist of spam about special videos and offers? I’d say practically every single one.

        as far as higher better quality, I’d disagree. There’s something special about seeing someone who you think you could have a chance with. Who could be that quiet coworker down the hall, or a nurse you’ve seen. What if it’s your friend’s hot older sister you always had a crush on? Those women might not have been egirls, or would ever have the time, or money to spend on good lighting and photo editing. They’re regular fucking people, just trying to get off, not get paid.

        Wanting to spread your product around to get people to pay for it is called advertising. It’s nothing new.

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          I can assure you none of those things is true.

          First off, by pushing out OF creators all it did was make it so that an underground network was created on there instead. So the person you were seeing would have no mention of OF but would be a bot account meant to spam you with messages. It also created an issue where we saw so much damn editing of pictures and people posting others content to get around the rules. Hell, half of the posts were basically OF creators who made a second GW dedicated account that didn’t mention it but was designed to funnel views to their main.

          Also, in the world of posting online it all becomes advertising. Even if not for money it’s all about putting yourself out there and getting validation, which requires people interacting with your post, which requires you to effectively advertise by posting certain content, doing things at certain times and coming up with fun titles. If you didn’t want advertising and a fair system to see all people then either having one GW account that posts only the content of the sub, or two having a system where everyone posts with the same title. The metrics show dumb titles work and it’s why if you scroll GW for any length of time you’ll notice that the same rehashed titles get used over and over.

          Lastly, the people with OF accounts are also regular people, and often just trying to get off as well.