No, but I’m sure if FT was trying to sell a war with Mexico they’d find a way to imply the new colors are cultural genocide or whatever.
I didn’t know Muslims had to have monolithic, generic buildings to the specifications of what westerners think a Mosque looks like. Were churches supposed to look gothic forever? Was making them baroque a human rights violation on christian Belgians?
I stg y’all are scraping the bottom of the barrel, twisting yourselves in knots to try to make the case that China is in any way remotely close to the many actual genocides the US and Europe have done and continue to do. It’s pure projection and it only facilitates the next US/European atrocity, as it did in Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc.
The redesigned mosques remind me of the Kaifeng synagogue, which is quite unlike any synagogue that I have ever seen. If you told me that it was a Confucian or Taoist monastery, I would have believed you.
I did look at the FT article, and found the exact same drivel I find whenever I read State Department rags. Quoting US based gusanos as the only purveyors of truth on the foreign enemy, followed by a nothing burger that they build up into literally 1984.
Again, all the FT article does is present a handful of renewed mosques among the thousands that exist in China and quote some guys that pinky swear it’s the first step in a campaign to “forcibly integrate” people that have been part of China for longer than there’s been a USA. What is factually presented in the article? That mosques have been renovated. They even say that the inside of these mosques remain identical and the Q’uran is still as prominent as ever within the halls.
Notice it’s always white Europeans and gusano expats whining and moaning about it, Muslim majority countries are commending this. But do tell China how to do inclusion the right way, I’m sure Muslims in France, Sweden, the UK and Germany must be over the moon at how well the Eur*s treat them.
And what exactly is the issue with working with religious scholars to harmonize religion with the law? I wish they’d have done that in the states 200 years ago instead of getting rabid christofascists who justify slavery, genocide and child abuse with the bible in the name of religious freedom (while also demonizing Islam). Westerners don’t have a leg to stand on, mind your own countries first.
Spare me the details of who conveniently condemns what. I’m looking at the simple facts here.
They have all been renovated to suddenly look like Han temples and there are videos of Uyghurs protesting it? And there is a Chinese initiative stipulating it? Looks clear cut to me unless you can show me a reason for these mass architectural changes. And so far nobody is able to explain these changes to me.
And what exactly is the issue with working with religious scholars to harmonize religion with the law?
France has been doing that since the second the moment they started colonizing Africa. The Liberal classic “Liberte Egalite Egalite but equality means everyone has to act exactly like the French”.
But to clarify, is your point that China is doing it but you think it’s cool, or is China not doing it?
My point is that mosques being remodeled constitutes a sign of human rights violations in and of itself is such a ridiculous stretch even by western standards that you can’t help but laugh at whomever says it with a straight face. To compare it with what the french did is stopping just short of genocide apologia. The french did a whole lot more than remodel some buildings, they completely imposed a foreign religion, taught European supremacist history and civics and, oh, just kind of sort of stole every resource they could at gunpoint and under threat of torture.
I get that sinophobia is the flavor of the decade and the yellow peril is guilty until proven innocent a hundred times over for westerners, but until you find legitimate proof of human rights violations, you should restrain from making such accusations.
This is not me quoting Radio Free USAID on made up facts and numbers. It is concrete evidence of cultural ereasure and a prime example of how much control the government is exerting over mosques.
Sure France is and was worse and people can easily point to Israel for actual genocide on Muslims. That does not absolve China of their own very clearly laid out 5year plan which is very open about the forced assimilation of Muslims which too is cutting into their ideology.
You can’t blame everything on Sinophobia when I am presenting clear evidence. That is Islamophobic. Or does having a building with a dome would make Muslims terrorists?
Clear evidence of some mosques being remodelled and party efforts to work with religious leaders to curb the influence of jihadism (which the CIA loves to exploit). Everything else is yellow peril nonsense.
Did they change the churches into Mayan temples?
Also notice how I did not use the word genocide.
No, but I’m sure if FT was trying to sell a war with Mexico they’d find a way to imply the new colors are cultural genocide or whatever.
I didn’t know Muslims had to have monolithic, generic buildings to the specifications of what westerners think a Mosque looks like. Were churches supposed to look gothic forever? Was making them baroque a human rights violation on christian Belgians?
I stg y’all are scraping the bottom of the barrel, twisting yourselves in knots to try to make the case that China is in any way remotely close to the many actual genocides the US and Europe have done and continue to do. It’s pure projection and it only facilitates the next US/European atrocity, as it did in Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc.
The redesigned mosques remind me of the Kaifeng synagogue, which is quite unlike any synagogue that I have ever seen. If you told me that it was a Confucian or Taoist monastery, I would have believed you.
This is the same reasoning NATO lovers use to discredit anything from TheGrayzone etc.
Who does the reporting is irrelevant. Nor who pays them. What matters is whether the evidence checks out.
It’s a literal Chinese 5 year plan by the CCP. Chinese law. https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/islamsinifcationplan
Maybe you should read the FT article instead of only looking at the site link.
I did look at the FT article, and found the exact same drivel I find whenever I read State Department rags. Quoting US based gusanos as the only purveyors of truth on the foreign enemy, followed by a nothing burger that they build up into literally 1984.
Again, all the FT article does is present a handful of renewed mosques among the thousands that exist in China and quote some guys that pinky swear it’s the first step in a campaign to “forcibly integrate” people that have been part of China for longer than there’s been a USA. What is factually presented in the article? That mosques have been renovated. They even say that the inside of these mosques remain identical and the Q’uran is still as prominent as ever within the halls.
Notice it’s always white Europeans and gusano expats whining and moaning about it, Muslim majority countries are commending this. But do tell China how to do inclusion the right way, I’m sure Muslims in France, Sweden, the UK and Germany must be over the moon at how well the Eur*s treat them.
And what exactly is the issue with working with religious scholars to harmonize religion with the law? I wish they’d have done that in the states 200 years ago instead of getting rabid christofascists who justify slavery, genocide and child abuse with the bible in the name of religious freedom (while also demonizing Islam). Westerners don’t have a leg to stand on, mind your own countries first.
Spare me the details of who conveniently condemns what. I’m looking at the simple facts here.
They have all been renovated to suddenly look like Han temples and there are videos of Uyghurs protesting it? And there is a Chinese initiative stipulating it? Looks clear cut to me unless you can show me a reason for these mass architectural changes. And so far nobody is able to explain these changes to me.
France has been doing that since the second the moment they started colonizing Africa. The Liberal classic “Liberte Egalite Egalite but equality means everyone has to act exactly like the French”.
But to clarify, is your point that China is doing it but you think it’s cool, or is China not doing it?
My point is that mosques being remodeled constitutes a sign of human rights violations in and of itself is such a ridiculous stretch even by western standards that you can’t help but laugh at whomever says it with a straight face. To compare it with what the french did is stopping just short of genocide apologia. The french did a whole lot more than remodel some buildings, they completely imposed a foreign religion, taught European supremacist history and civics and, oh, just kind of sort of stole every resource they could at gunpoint and under threat of torture.
I get that sinophobia is the flavor of the decade and the yellow peril is guilty until proven innocent a hundred times over for westerners, but until you find legitimate proof of human rights violations, you should restrain from making such accusations.
This is not me quoting Radio Free USAID on made up facts and numbers. It is concrete evidence of cultural ereasure and a prime example of how much control the government is exerting over mosques.
Sure France is and was worse and people can easily point to Israel for actual genocide on Muslims. That does not absolve China of their own very clearly laid out 5year plan which is very open about the forced assimilation of Muslims which too is cutting into their ideology.
You can’t blame everything on Sinophobia when I am presenting clear evidence. That is Islamophobic. Or does having a building with a dome would make Muslims terrorists?
Clear evidence of some mosques being remodelled and party efforts to work with religious leaders to curb the influence of jihadism (which the CIA loves to exploit). Everything else is yellow peril nonsense.