• AntifaSuperWombat [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Pretty sure Lenin thought about that:

    In capitalist society, providing it develops under the most favourable conditions, we have a more or less complete democracy in the democratic republic. But this democracy is always hemmed in by the narrow limits set by capitalist exploitation, and consequently always remains, in effect, a democracy for the minority, only for the propertied classes, only for the rich. Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in the ancient Greek republics: freedom for the slave-owners. Owing to the conditions of capitalist exploitation, the modern wage slaves are so crushed by want and poverty that “they cannot be bothered with democracy”, “cannot be bothered with politics”; in the ordinary, peaceful course of events, the majority of the population is debarred from participation in public and political life.

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    Every failure or mistake in a communist country is a failing of communism as a whole ideology. But every failure of my precious capitalism is just that it’s not real capitalism, it’s crony capitalism (or something else).

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    “I am for boiling water but against creating water vapor, a position you chemists never thought about and consider absurd.”

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    my position, [although] I do not hold the pretension of absolute truth or of covering all possible nuances of human activity and morality; my position is way more consistent and moral then yours !!

    acknowledging libertarianism doesn’t work but doubling down is chefs-kiss

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    “Crony” capitalism is an inevitability in a capitalist system. If someone gets enough wealth and power they will buy government influence. It’s actually an expression of the “free market” that they can buy a service that’s useful to them. Even within the private sector, powerful companies will form cartels to control the market. The only way out of this is government intervention.

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      The people with enough wealth and power to buy the government CREATED the US government in the first place. James Madison, founding “father” and 5th POTUS explicitly stated in the Federalist Papers that the purpose of government was to protect the opulent minority from the majority. The idea there could ever be anything but crony capitalism and anything except government run by the richest capitalists is literally contradictory and illogical.

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        George Washington was also the richest person in the country with the highest number (or close to it, im not sure off the top of my head) of slaves. It’s been “”““crony””“” capitalism this whole time going back before the revolution.

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          Wasn’t he like constantly fucking broke and asking for loans because he was constantly burning money on dumb shit even with having a whole aristocratic slave estate propping up his opulent lifestyle to the point he had to ask to borrow money to go to his inauguration? Or am I thinking of someone else altogether?

          • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Jefferson definitely had this problem worst of them but it was pretty common among these guys. Washington had weird ‘luck’ and most of his extended family died leaving him with a ton of money and property but the slave-owning class had a hard on for having Stuff instead of cash so they were always kind of broke and taking out loans when they wanted to buy something