They railroaded Clinton into being the 2016 candidate and appointed Harris as the 2024 one.
Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 primaries. Nonratfuckety was needed. No superdelegates needed to cast a single vote at the convention because she had enough pledged elected delegates. The party even changed the rules starting in 2018 so that superdelegates don’t even get a vote in the convention unless the pledged delegates can’t elect a nominee in the first round of voting.
The DNC leadership doesn’t care what their constituents actually want.
Which is why we have to actually show up and out-vote them instead of losing elections to “teach them a lesson” which hurts us more than it does them.
Uncoincidentally, that’s why said leadership needs to be replaced.
Yes indeed. And the DNC leadership elections after the last election have finally started that shift towards more progressive leadership (notice that the leaders are voted into office, that and people had to participate in that vote, it’s kind of a theme here 😋).
When the DNC uses their media connections to push the narrative that Clinton was ahead by hundreds of delegate votes before the primaries have even started… Don’t you think that’s going to have some affect on how/if people vote in the primaries?
Using the end result of ratfuckery to try to disprove that ratfuckery occurred is a shit argument.
Don’t you think that’s going to have some affect on how/if people vote in the primaries?
Of course it does, I’ve never intended to convey believing otherwise. The ownership class is never going to say “I feel bad about having won this way because people aread.about it so next time I’ll put my resources towards electing someone who check my privilege.” We have to focus on the things we can actually do, and voting is the absolute minimum. And when I look at the history and present electability math of 3rd parties vs the major parties, I’m left with the conclusion that at the state and federal level, the only thing I can do to effect change is voting in the primaries. That doesn’t mean I think the DNC is looking out for me or sitting back to let then system work. It just means I don’t think any other option has any possible chance of working. And pretty much everybody who doesn’t already agree just gets incensed at the idea without having any practical alternative. Do you have an alternative suggestion?
Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 primaries. Nonratfuckety was needed. No superdelegates needed to cast a single vote at the convention because she had enough pledged elected delegates. The party even changed the rules starting in 2018 so that superdelegates don’t even get a vote in the convention unless the pledged delegates can’t elect a nominee in the first round of voting.
Which is why we have to actually show up and out-vote them instead of losing elections to “teach them a lesson” which hurts us more than it does them.
Yes indeed. And the DNC leadership elections after the last election have finally started that shift towards more progressive leadership (notice that the leaders are voted into office, that and people had to participate in that vote, it’s kind of a theme here 😋).
When the DNC uses their media connections to push the narrative that Clinton was ahead by hundreds of delegate votes before the primaries have even started… Don’t you think that’s going to have some affect on how/if people vote in the primaries?
Using the end result of ratfuckery to try to disprove that ratfuckery occurred is a shit argument.
Of course it does, I’ve never intended to convey believing otherwise. The ownership class is never going to say “I feel bad about having won this way because people aread.about it so next time I’ll put my resources towards electing someone who check my privilege.” We have to focus on the things we can actually do, and voting is the absolute minimum. And when I look at the history and present electability math of 3rd parties vs the major parties, I’m left with the conclusion that at the state and federal level, the only thing I can do to effect change is voting in the primaries. That doesn’t mean I think the DNC is looking out for me or sitting back to let then system work. It just means I don’t think any other option has any possible chance of working. And pretty much everybody who doesn’t already agree just gets incensed at the idea without having any practical alternative. Do you have an alternative suggestion?