• Ricky Rigatoni@retrolemmy.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    21 hours ago

    I have a pretty low bar for posts from a comm called “witches vs patriarchy” and this still doesn’t reach it. Get the fuck out with this trash.

  • homoludens@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    21 hours ago

    As a man I read this not as “every single man would literally always protect a child rapist”, but as “men tend to be loyal to their friends and would often only call them out on sexist behavior if an additional factor comes into play”.

    Yes, it’s hyperbole. On the internet. In a meme community.

  • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    23 hours ago

    If I’m being charitable to the person who wrote this. They mean that it’s a thing done by men, but they didn’t say all mean. I’d argue it’s men like him, except one point. It’s not just men. There are women who enable this too. Remember, Jeffery Epstein’s right hand man, was a woman.

  • Owl@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    23 hours ago

    gotta love casual sexism against men being normalized and even celebrated

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      21 hours ago

      Yeah. I think we could fix a lot of societal problems if we made masculinity something that was as inherently worthy of mocking and easy criticism as any other gender expression is now.

      If 'not all men’ing automatically got you laughed out of every room.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    24 hours ago

    Hey. As a man, I resent being lumped in with Elon on this.

    The whole “but they do the bad thing” is a what about-ism; and many of us don’t associate with people who we need to do mental gymnastics to justify their actions.

    If I had a friend or acquaintance who was a child r*pist, I would have one less friend or acquaintances the day I found that out. I don’t need anyone in my life that I have to justify their actions because of how shitty they actually are. My life is complicated, and/or, difficult enough… I don’t need people in it that add to that with their drama and/or felony criminal activity. I don’t care how “important” or “influential” they are, I will just remove myself from the situation and politely decline any future interactions with that individual regardless of all other factors.

    Since I started abiding by this philosophy, I’ve lost more “friends” than I care to count, but the friends I still have, are people actually worth knowing. They’re people who make me better as a person. I hope they feel the same about me, but that’s entirely up to them to make a decision about.

    In any case. Generalizing an entire gender because of the actions of one dude? Not cool. That would be like if I based my opinions on women off of the example set by someone like Carla Homolka. First of all, fuck that bitch and the horse she rode in on; she should eat the curb for the horrors she has committed; but also, she is not an example by which anyone should base an opinion on, about women in general.

    Elon may be arguably less horrible than Homolka, but I think I’ve made my point.

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      21 hours ago

      Hey, so, notice how no women are jumping in to defend themselves or carla homolka? None of us jumping in to object to not being adequately distanced from her?

      This is why you people can’t be taken seriously.

      • Numberone@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Why men can’t be taken seriously you mean? I don’t know who this Carla Homolka person is, but if you had a post comparing every woman to their actions on the basis of their sex I’m pretty sure you would get women defending themselves in exactly the same way (assuming this person did something terrible from context).

        I’m not sure how you don’t see that using “you people” in this way is acceptable in generalizing any other group. There’s definitely a pass, socially, when aiming those words at men. Ask yourself why that is.

  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    24 hours ago

    I love being likened to a psychopath (or whatever shit Musk is) just because we both have balls.

    Thanks, I hate it.

  • glimse@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 day ago

    I normally cringe to see “as a man…” comments but this is incredibly sexist and it’s understandable to have something to say when you’re getting accused of habitually defending rapists. Kind of disappointed to see it posted here

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      23 hours ago

      I appreciate your sacrifice, as someone who posted “as a man”.

      Sexism is bad. Doesn’t matter who is on the receiving end. It’s still bad.

      • glimse@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Yeah, this one is a step too far for me. Instead of attributing his behavior to his well-established narcissism and power hungry freak behavior, he didn’t call Trump out because…he’s a man?? His identity as a piece of shit takes precedence here, not his gender.

        OP is one of the nicest individuals on this platform so I’m very, very surprised by this post

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 day ago

    I disagree as a man, it is not reflecting gender it is reflecting personality. This is how narcists and ego maniacs behave - and powerful people often fall into that category. Men and women.

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 day ago

      I tend to think there’s some causation behind the correlation between power and sociopathy. Furthermore, I don’t believe one comes necessarily before the other.

      I just call it the wealth disease.

  • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 day ago

    Elon is a man and an asshole. Those are separate issues. Most people, men and women, are not that selfish and childish.

    It’s unfortunate that assholes do tend to be a loud minority among men

  • ddplf@szmer.info
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Put “you had me in the first half meme”, but in reverse.

    Who are you to judge if you’re a misandrist piece of garbage yourself?

    • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 day ago

      All the same, I think? Being hypocritical doesn’t make either behaviour less bad or people’s feelings invalid

      • ddplf@szmer.info
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 day ago

        Yes, all the same exactly - speficially when you can’t curb yourself from exposing your low instincts in the very same sentence.

          • ddplf@szmer.info
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            22 hours ago

            What is “speficially”?

            Oh my God, I’m so sorry, I made a typo, will you be able to recover???

            Who’s low instincts?

            Take a wild guess my man

            How does that make a difference?

            I don’t find it easy to relate with hypocrites if you catch my drift

            • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              21 hours ago

              No I’m unable to decipher, you’re not making a lot of sense

              It could be mine, but you could also be referring to op’s post. It’s not quite clear, hence the question

              Ah, ye, I get that. It’s not about relating. I think everyone has a right to their own feelings and opinions regardless of the person they are themselves. For example, just because someone drives a car doesn’t mean they’re required to pretend climate change is a hoax. And their insight can still be helpful. Even if it doesn’t paint them in the very best light for the particular subject

  • stoy@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 day ago

    I disagree, as a man, I would expose the shit out of any other person I knew was doing that shit.

    When a man does this shit he increases the perception of all men being seen as possible predators and terrible people.

    A man does not do this, a man stands up for what is right, and if they don’t, they are no man.