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    10 months ago

    no one is saying they’re going to vote for trump. they’re saying they won’t vote for biden

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      10 months ago

      Lmao, that’s the epitome of something that sounds smart but is incredibly stupid when you think about it. Especially in response to this meme.

      In FPTP not voting for the chosen democratic representative means one vote less is required for the conservative. It doesn’t matter if that’s because you added a vote for Democrats, or didn’t vote at all. Same for voting 3rd party, it just ensures you get the candidate you want the least.

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        10 months ago

        that the epitome of something that sounds smart but is incredibly stupid

        I voted for Howie in 2020 and Biden won. you don’t seem to know how voting works.

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          10 months ago

          You don’t seem to know what anecdotal evidence or statistical analysis works.

          Biden barely won, and you didn’t get the candidate you wanted. In 2016, it’s people like you who gave trump the victory

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            Same for voting 3rd party, it just ensures you get the candidate you want the least.

            this claim is obviously false, since I have provided proof against it. if you want to weaken the claim, moving the goalposts, that’s fine, but don’t break a sweat.

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              Not sure if you’re just being intentionally thick or a troll.

              Youre explaining yourself that despite you voting against him, Biden won, and you didn’t want Trump and the person you voted for didn’t win. So your actions gave you the least chance of having a candidate you were aligned with.

              If anything, you are giving proof that it’s a dumb thing to do. But that would be anecdotal evidence, and there’s no need for that.

              If you manually run the results and the effects of 3rd parties, it’s pretty clear that it makes no sense in First Past the Post.

              It’s a thing known as The spoiler effect, or vote splitting and has always been a documented thing that dumb people don’t understand. Who do you think funds these 3rd parties in the first place…

              Youre being played.

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            10 months ago

            people who voted for Trump gave him the victory. 50 years of people like Joe biden running the Democrat party gave Trump the victory. don’t blame me.

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              But they’ve been running the conservative party the same way for 50 years too. You’re literally admitting to hate Biden so much you let the conservatives win even if that meant making the US worse.

              Literally what the meme is about. Tell us, what have you gained from it aside from more frustration and hate? Biden didnt learn anything from 2016. You can blame biden when you lose your democracy, but you’ll still have lost your democracy. I wouldn’t wait for Biden to fix that. The democratic party is more than one person making decisions, and handing the power to your enemy is not how you make changes within your own team.

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                You’re literally admitting to hate Biden so much you let the conservatives win even if that meant making the US worse.

                no, i’m not