Exactly. Take my preferred snack for example, a bag of oven baked pork rinds. 37G protein, 12g fat, 0 carbs. (Ok theres an assload of salt) about 250 cals. No artificial colors, flavours or preservatives… is that “processed”?
My point was more along the lines that a “processed” formed chicken breast pattie isnt somehow worse for you than a big slab of crunchy fatty pork belly because it went through a machine. Its possible to make good decisions involving processed food and terrible whole foods decisions too… delicious decadent “now I want pork belly” decisions. I do wonder how many of these studies control for calorie intake, quality of nutrition, etc.
In my honest opinion, processed things are things that are, through scientific methods, made to be addictive. Like Pringles having the perfect crunch or different chemical compounds of Red Bull (color spot on the bottom). I don’t count cured meat as processed, but I have a hard time calling a pound of deli ham anything but processed.
See you just gave me the perfect example. Pringles.
Compare the macros on a serve of Pringles (definitely an ultra-processed food. I googled the ingredients - Dehydrated potato, vegetable oils, wheat starch (gluten), rice flour, emulsifier (471), maltodextrin, salt, acidity regulator (330).) and a serve of Kettle Chips (Potatoes, sunflower oil, sea salt) the macros are pretty damn close to the same. One is ultra-processed, one is at least processed and I imagine if you thinly sliced a potato and fried it at home and salted them you would get a similar product with similar nutrition to the Kettle chips but would it still be considered processed?
Admittedly there is an argument to be made about micronutrients and phytochemicals that would give the kettles and home mades a slight edge on any “which is healthier” discussion, but the honest answer to “Which of these foods should you sit down and demolish a salad bowl full of?” is NONE because processed or not, its a highly paletable bowl of calorie dense food thats incredibly easy to over consume.
The problem isnt the processing, the problem is that making a giant pile of home made chips is hard and time consuming so you probably wont and a bag of Kettles is a $3 addition to my trolley.
The problem isnt the processing, the problem is that making a giant pile of home made chips is hard and time consuming so you probably wont
This is it exactly! Look at noodles! I consider them processed food, and since I got a noodle machine (non-electric) I don’t eat them as often as I used to.
Even if you got the flour at home, it’s still very time consuming. you would think twice if you just throw some potatoes into boiling water or if you risk making your kitchen dirty while hand-making noodles.
Exactly. Take my preferred snack for example, a bag of oven baked pork rinds. 37G protein, 12g fat, 0 carbs. (Ok theres an assload of salt) about 250 cals. No artificial colors, flavours or preservatives… is that “processed”?
My point was more along the lines that a “processed” formed chicken breast pattie isnt somehow worse for you than a big slab of crunchy fatty pork belly because it went through a machine. Its possible to make good decisions involving processed food and terrible whole foods decisions too… delicious decadent “now I want pork belly” decisions. I do wonder how many of these studies control for calorie intake, quality of nutrition, etc.
In my honest opinion, processed things are things that are, through scientific methods, made to be addictive. Like Pringles having the perfect crunch or different chemical compounds of Red Bull (color spot on the bottom). I don’t count cured meat as processed, but I have a hard time calling a pound of deli ham anything but processed.
See you just gave me the perfect example. Pringles.
Compare the macros on a serve of Pringles (definitely an ultra-processed food. I googled the ingredients - Dehydrated potato, vegetable oils, wheat starch (gluten), rice flour, emulsifier (471), maltodextrin, salt, acidity regulator (330).) and a serve of Kettle Chips (Potatoes, sunflower oil, sea salt) the macros are pretty damn close to the same. One is ultra-processed, one is at least processed and I imagine if you thinly sliced a potato and fried it at home and salted them you would get a similar product with similar nutrition to the Kettle chips but would it still be considered processed?
Admittedly there is an argument to be made about micronutrients and phytochemicals that would give the kettles and home mades a slight edge on any “which is healthier” discussion, but the honest answer to “Which of these foods should you sit down and demolish a salad bowl full of?” is NONE because processed or not, its a highly paletable bowl of calorie dense food thats incredibly easy to over consume.
The problem isnt the processing, the problem is that making a giant pile of home made chips is hard and time consuming so you probably wont and a bag of Kettles is a $3 addition to my trolley.
This is it exactly! Look at noodles! I consider them processed food, and since I got a noodle machine (non-electric) I don’t eat them as often as I used to.
Even if you got the flour at home, it’s still very time consuming. you would think twice if you just throw some potatoes into boiling water or if you risk making your kitchen dirty while hand-making noodles.