• Rose56@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    Do they care? No! Will they push more AI? Yes! Will they listen to the consumers? I don’t think so.
    Same thing happens with lot of products over the years. Companies push new stuff that we don’t want, and a year later becomes a regular thing! They push AI day by day, from websites AI chat help to in app AI assistant. Do consumers like it? No, but still you gonna find it everywhere! and now they push it in computers and looks what it happens! No sales!

    Call me crazy, but at some point, they need to look at their data or their consumers and do the right thing.

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      Microsoft pushing a feature that most users will never use or care about? Never!

      Laughs in Window 8 optimized for touchscreens

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      21 days ago

      It’s because they’re looking at data and a lot of you forget that. They don’t care if realistically everyone hates it if the data says everyone would use and benefit from it. Why is this so much more important? If you looked at the marketing behind AI they faked this entire industry by showing companies the “right” data to have them back them up but it’s just manipulation from the industry to make something profitable like NFTs.

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      21 days ago

      It’s maddening that they did actually take away the headphone jack from all modern phones and there’s nothing we can do about it even though it objectively sucks

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        You can still buy phones with a headphone jack. It’s just that most people buy the one without because most people have a wireless headset they use with the phone.

        It’s SUPER simple: if something new comes along and sells, it will become the standard. If it doesn’t sell, it won’t.

        Removing the headphone jack allowed manufacturers to make phones thinner/lighter/cheaper/whatever and people didn’t vote against it, therefore it stays.

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          “The perfect size of the screen is ((3.5 + (year - 2010) * 0.5)) inches.”

          STFU. Make phones small like iPhone 4 again.

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        there’s nothing we can do about it

        Outright rejection of their shit, I won’t buy new smartphones from them. Currently using a dumbphone although the case is breaking and they don’t make this one any more. Nokia could work but costs quite a bit tbh. Getting rid of the phone entirely is tempting.

        If I ever buy a smartphone again it will be the cheapest second hand thing I can find. Maybe don’t even take it out the house, it can stay at home like a landline and will be restricted to at most LAN connections only.

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    Oh hey, I got one of those buttons on my new laptop that literally never booted into Windows. Pressing it Linux says it’s “Meta + CTRL” (I think), which is pretty useful. Got it for the good price/performance/build-quality ratio.

    Didn’t yet find a good use for that fancy NPU, the XDNA driver just arrived a month ago or so. Perhaps for use with Upscayl or something actually useful.

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    21 days ago

    That’s not fair! I care! A lot!

    Just had to buy a new laptop for new place of employment. It took real time, effort, and care, but I’ve finally found a recent laptop matching my hardware requirements and sense of aesthetics at a reasonable price, without that hideous copilot button :)

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        Decided on this:

        Still had some issues under Linux / NixOS a couple of weeks ago (hardware-wise everything worked; but specific programs, esp. Librewolf, will randomly start eating CPU and battery out of nowhere, with what looks like noops. Haven’t investigated further, yet.

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          I really wanted to like that laptop but the screen is so incredibly glossy that unless you’re in a totally dark room it becomes a mirror.

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            I think it’s a matter of preference. Haven’t noticed the screen being a mirror yet, but then again I feel like any even mildly matte screen looks like it’s being viewed through a veil…

            I am a bit worried/curious about how the oled will deal with my very static waybars though, lol

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          sweet, glad to know it generally works with linux. this is available in my part of the world. been shopping around for a personal for-work laptop since my company is stingy. And I plan to move on anyways.

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            It generally works, yes, but I’d hold off for another month or two in the hopes of the issues being resolved in the kernel

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            Numpad/pin input. Utterly useless in my opinion. Also apparently activates itself pretty regularly by accident from palms resting when typing. YouTube comments are full of people desperate for a windows/driver update which lets you deactivate this thing.

            Oh, btw, I did not go through the trouble of enabling support under Linux (you can, but it’s optional, because, well… Linux)

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        How are they bootlocked? Just need the right iso. I have done it, because I didn’t know they came with Linux for this particular client and they put windows on it, had to get a specific iso to reinstall when they borked it.

  • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.ee
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    21 days ago

    The average technical person realises ai is shit.
    The average non-technical person doesn’t need an ai computer, because chatgpt is free.

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      not exactly true on the 2nd one, just because cpgt exist is not the reason an average person believes they dont need AI. they know AI is shit from the get-go, doesnt take a programming genius to realizing, when you know that only the corporations are the only ones obsessed with it, and it hadnt produced any valuble product.

      and then had to deal with many AI system, like chat boxes, or google searches, especially on reddit.

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        Depends on the implementation.

        Just about everyone I know loves how iPhones can take a picture and readily identify a plant or animal. That’s actually delightful. Some AI tech is great.

        Now put an LLM chatbox where people expect a search box, and see what happens… yeah that shit sucks.

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        20 days ago

        Whenever I ask random people who are not on IT, they either don’t know about it or they love it.

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          I work in IT and have recently been having a lot of fun leveraging AI in my home lab to program things as well as doing audio\video generation (which is a blast honestly.) So… I mean, I think it really depends on how it’s integrated and used.

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            “I work in IT” says the rando, rapaciously switching between support tickets in their web browser and their shadow-IT personal browser

            “I’ve been having a lot of fun” continues the rando, in a picture-perfect replica of every other fucking promptfan posting the same selfish egoist bullshit

            “So… I mean, I think it really depends on how it’s integrated and used” says thee fuckwit, who can’t think two words beyond their own fucking nose

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              ““I work in IT” says the rando, rapaciously switching between support tickets in their web browser and their shadow-IT personal browser” says the ignoramus that hasn’t left his house in weeks and trolls people for fun.

              ““I’ve been having a lot of fun” continues the rando, in a picture-perfect replica of every other fucking promptfan posting the same selfish egoist bullshit” Says the moron with no context that is making assumptions about someone with very little information and apparently no worldly knowledge.

              ““So… I mean, I think it really depends on how it’s integrated and used” says thee fuckwit, who can’t think two words beyond their own fucking nose” Says the elitist that literally contributes nothing positive to the world.

              Go touch some grass

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                look, I’ll do you the disfavour of giving you an actually detailed reply

                you know exactly fucking nothing about me, about what I do, and about my competencies. if you did just a liiiiiiittle bit of work you might get an inkling, but: I know you didn’t, and I know you don’t.

                that’s not a judgement, that’s just fact.

                trying to flippantly rage at my derision of your shitty post… I mean, points for effort? but… be more interesting…? you’re factory-line-identical outrage, and it’s boring

                para (2): sure, I made some inferred guesses. still don’t think I’m wrong (and your little tagline ragefest there isn’t helping, either)

                paras (1) and (3): I lul. once again, if you knew anything about me…

                but sure, go off queen. I’m sure your emanated bilge will be received with vim and verve.

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    Most features are relabelled years old shit…google on tap is now gemini screen search.

    Things like chatbots have gotten better but bleh, I dont want to give up my privacy for this shit

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    Local AI kind of sucks right now, and everything is massively over branded as AI ready these days.

    There aren’t a lot of compelling local use cases and the memory constraints of local mean you end up with fairly weak models.

    You need a high end high memory local setup to get decent token rates, and I’m finding right now 30-70b models are the minimum viable size.

    That doesn’t compare with speed of online models running on GPUs that cost more than luxury cars.

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    I will not go into ethics.

    AI as in the current LLMs is useful. But it has to be used for the right things. It is not a search engine. It is not perfect at extracting information from text.

    I am not a fan of AI “art”, but I do actually find some AI music tolerable.

    AI “art” has gotten worse in my opinion. It’s more “correct”, but has this nasty glow to it. I liked it better with the jank and seven fingers. It did not have the same AI slop glowy filter.

    Development It helps speed up development, not by giving me code I can use necessarily. But because it shows me a path forward. I don’t get stuck on tasks that should be easy anymore. I don’t have to think long for it to suggest me a way to map x object to y datatype.

    It’s also useful for writing unit tests.

    Summarization I use it to summarize articles with a custom prompt. While not perfect, it helps me decide if this is clickbait/interesting or not. I use the summaries to decide if I want to read the article or not.

    Do you see any obvious issues with this? Give it a plan or something and ask if it sees any issues. It will come up with tons of bullshit and a few useful issues sometimes. It is like a sparring partner.

    AI Dungeon AI Dungeon is fun, it was even fun when GPT2 was a thing, but now it’s a lot better.

    Low effort image recognition Set up a camera, send a picture regularly and ask “Is X in photo? Yes/No”

    (I know there is better ways of doing this, and even great pretrained machine learning APIs for it)

    HomeAssistant I have these sensors (give list of sensors). I want an automation that does x, y, z. It writes a working one in seconds.

    Math Yes, it is fairly good at math. You can’t trust it, but if you know a fair bit of math and know how to verify, it can help you use the right formulas. If you are stuck it can help you move forward.

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    The thing LLMs can effectively replace is Google search (and other search engines). Microsoft is shoving copilot down your throat because shoving Bing up your ass was harder when it was already full of other shit.

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      The thing LLMs can effectively replace is Google search (and other search engines).

      This statement is true on zero known planets.

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          who in the fuck do you think you’re fooling. all of us have used LLMs for search, not by choice. it’s a garbage technology for that use case (and every other use case) and it didn’t take enshittification for it to get there — it is the enshittification.

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        Well if you’ve used something like sesame on your phone: https://www.sesame.com/research/crossing_the_uncanny_valley_of_voice#demo

        Imagine that but with the ability to create videos and diagrams, and it creates them as a response to followup questions about the information provided. That may not replace search but its definitely replacing teachers, and a lot of what people are searching for, it will be the closest thing to a mind meld we have for sharing information.

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          it will be the closest thing to a mind meld we have for sharing information.

          Sorry, the only people who get to talk about mind melds are the authors of Kirk/Spock erotica. I don’t make the rules.

          … Wait, I’m a mod. I do make the rules!

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        I hear the youths are using ChatGPT like we used Google when we were their age, but they must be way better than I am, because when I ask it things I don’t already know, sometimes it gives me truth and sometimes lies.

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      we’ve all seen how well LLMs replace Google search and the product’s fucking unusable