• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    Do you have any peer reviewed journal articles on the efficacy of being mean to people? We’ve been asshats to fat people for a really long time and, I hate to break it to you, it hasn’t made anybody thinner. So next time you think about giving some “tough love” to somebody, remember that it doesn’t work and you’re just finding an excuse to be a garbage person.

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        but now there’s the “fat positivity” movement. Being too kind to these people and affirming their delusions about how other people are just bigots for not being attracted to people who can’t fit through doors in most buildings made the number of overweight and morbidly obese people skyrocket

        Can you clearly show this using data? I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, but if you’re right, we should see a clear change in data starting from when the body positivity movement started (i.e. not just a continuing trend).

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          Yeah, I think that quote is mixing up causation and correlation. Obesity rates have been rising for the past few decades, mostly linked to processed foods containing higher calories becoming more common, but there’s not a jump due to fat activism.

          I do think that there are some fat activists go too far. Like, no, you aren’t entitled to have hot people be attracted to you, no one’s entitled to any attraction at all. However, going out of your way to be a dick to them doesn’t help, just like you aren’t bullying someone out of inceldom.

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            That’s also my perspective. Sure, some people go to far, but that’s literally always the case. But the obesity epidemic has far bigger reasons, ultimately coming down to late-stage capitalism.