I don’t necessarily mean specific recipes, I mean concepts. A western sandwich is bread, (vegan) meat or cheese, sauce, tomato, something pickled, some salad, mostly, all layered and/or thinly sliced. Cross out maybe some of them for simplicity, like the mayo tomato or the british cheese and cucumber.
A döner kebap is sort of layered but everything but the protein layer is more of a mix up and not like tomato followed by onion or whatever.
A Banh Mi is sort of western of course, but it does a twist. The layers are there-ish, but they don’t matter so much. Sort of a hybrid between something like a kebap and a pita if you catch my drift.
What other sandwiches are there, conceptually?
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all of them are, yes. But I need to go deeper. What is beyond the alignment chart?
Pizza is a sandwich. If open face is an option pizza is there. A chip, if dipped, while controversial, I believe to be a sandwich and can present a solid case
A chip, if dipped, while controversial, I believe to be a sandwich and can present a solid case
But I agree
Lettuce wraps
that’s still just a wrap
On the May 16, 2006 episode, Ze challenged his viewers to create an “Earth Sandwich.” The goal was to place two pieces of bread on the ground at points directly opposite each other on the globe, creating a giant sandwich between the two pieces of bread.[9] The task was completed by brothers Duncan and Jon Rawlinson in Spain and Morgan in New Zealand.
You mean like that ?
I ain’t galactus, the entire earth is not edible to me. I mean something like the grilled threese but optimally way more edible
I’m looking for what I cannot conceive. Does roasted aubergine as bread fuck? Is there some sort of concept where it’s all pickles in bread and you eat it paired with something else? I’m looking to expand my horizon here
If you can wait a few more years you can get it toasted
true but please do not say this
a toasted earth sandwich is about as high concept as one can bring into actuality in the early mid 21st century.
but i will relent and allow less terrestrial discourse to flourish.
If I cant fit a single bite into my mouth it’s not a sandwich. That’s a salad with bread except I have to cut that shit myself.
Roasted aubergine as bread may in fact fuck. Is a loaded baked potato a sandwich? Cause that’s where my mind is going with the roasted eggplant. I can make a tomato jam that will knock your socks off and that in a hollowed out roasted eggplant topped with some chunky marinara would be amazing.
Is a loaded baked potato a sandwich?
It’s an open faced sandwich
Idk about replacing bread, but it can certainly substitute for lasagna noodles when thinly sliced.
A western sandwich is bread, (vegan) meat or cheese, sauce, tomato, something pickled, some salad
Observe:
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bread - wheat raised with yeast and left to rise
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meat - probably smoked or salt-cured or something
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cheese - milk, coagulated and aged
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something pickled - a vegetable was left in an acidic brine
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sauce - perhaps it is a fermented sauce
A pattern emerges:
- something edible was preserved through a biological process and left to develop flavor
From here we can see that the ur-sandwich is not about structure or ingredients, but rather the number of different preservation processes brought together into a single dish.
wine with bread is a sandwich, thus christ is a sandwich.
also
I think there has to be an unbroken linear arrangement. A sandwich means every ingredient has something above it and something beneath it, instead of all being mixed in together. Egg salad, tuna salad, etc. would all be considered single-ingredient sandwiches.
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“Open faced” sandwiches. Avocado toast is a sandwich.
that’s just a convertible sandwich, western style
I used to do a temporal sandwich where I’d eat a slice of bread, other stuff, and then another slice of bread. I can’t seem to place what the middle was. It may have been goldfish crackers.
Frank Reynolds or his brother invented it!
Mine was in the 90s! Can I sue? Willing to settle for a dicktowel.
I think Dicktowels is owned by The Lawyer
a stack of pancakes or waffles is a sandwich that many are too dainty and proper to eat with their hands.
when you grab more than one French fry, that’s a sandwich. and the condiment you dip it in is like the au jus.
lasagna is an oven baked sandwich. same with multi layer bean dip.
conceptually, a sandwich is a edible delivery system for helping you eat with your hands. a bread bowl is a sandwich.
a lasagna is not a sandwich because it does not have the carbohydrate on the outside to grab and help eat but otherwise yes, we’re getting somewhere here. How do I edibly glue them fries together for that fry-bread sandwich?
We deep fried a couple sheets of lasagna noodles at work so they were like chow mein noodles but big and square and then put lasagna stuff in there and ate it like a sandwich
Yes! Yes!!
fry-bread
Frybread actually means something fully different from fried X as a sandwich; it is vaguely like naan but with more oil.
the answer to this and all spiritual/existential questions is the same:
mayonnaise.
baked mayonaise sounds more like a bandname than a culinary technique so elaborate here
A multi layer beam dip is not a sandwich until it’s on a chip. A bread bowl is a sandwich in form but not function and therefore doesn’t meet the criteria. Unless you’re picking that shit up and munching it in from the side and getting soup everywhere, which means you aren’t eating the soup which means eating it as a sandwich is not eating the food as intended and is therefore not a sandwich, this is called formalism. The resulting bread after the soup is mostly eaten is closer in function to the sandwich but bread with something soaked in is getting a bit too far removed. Gravy is a sandwich under those rules.
Stuffed peppers
yes. onigiri with balkan characteristics
Food I constantly forget that I love and can make really well
A classic from college:
- Ellio’s pizza, cooked according to directions
- Doritos, crumbled
- Stack, fold, or wrap, according to taste/hand-eye coordination
Thus, the sandwich is Western in form (bread/sauce/cheese/other/cheese/sauce/bread), but the layers cohere to produce an irreducible whole apart from its components. The sandwich has the portability required for every occasion from the boardroom to the discotheque while maintaining a utilitarian, even proletarian, character. And it contains enough preservatives that if you made 1000 of them today you’d survive through Judgment Day.
The comically large sandwiches like Shaggy eats on Scooby Doo.
A burger is a sandwich.
A meatball sub however is not a sandwich.
More R&D is needed for paella-sized sandwiches that are wide but still short-enough to actually bite into.
That is where the sub, hoagie, grinder etc come in. We make dome amazing foccacia at my work and I just cut a wide slab for when I want a sandwich
this gets the idea
The comically large sandwiches like Shaggy eats on Scooby Doo.
That’s just western conceptual style
A meatball sub however is not a sandwich.
How do you figure?
It’s an edible sluice for melted cheese, sauce and beef orbs.
A taco is not a sluice, though, because it explodes when you bit into it.
It’s an edible sluice for melted cheese, sauce and beef orbs.
but then is a kebap not a sandwich?
Ah, a curveball. You see, a kebab is a sandwich because the contents don’t slosh when you tilt it.
yeah they do what are you on about
Kebabs are my absolute favorite food, and the wettest ones I’ve ever had still didn’t slosh. Maybe my sample selection isn’t broad enough, but based on what I’ve had, still a sandwich.
RIP Star Kebap on Via Faenza, Firenze, Italy.
Did you try sloshing them within the aluminum foil packaging or without? Cause I feel like you could easily do the former with a meatball sub and be fine. They wrap them fuckers tight
Depends on where the kebab is on the wet-dry spectrum I suppose
I guess a samosa is kind of a sandwich.
fair! true! Okay, big dumpling then? Large Ravioli, there’s something here
I feel like British and Russian savory pastries might also fall into this category.
I actually do this one, mix of peppers, onions, different mushrooms maybe, garlic and olives fried up and then use 2 toasted (on a pan not in a toaster) portobello mushrooms. I’ve also done the mushroom for bread with a leftover red cabbage and carrot vinaigrette coleslaw, vegan Russian dressing, saeurkraut and tempeh and it was a sorta reuben. Fucking amazing.
When I did morning shifts at my previous job I would often eat what I would call The Bananarito, I’d make a large thin pancake and wrap it around a banana with nuts, whatever fruit was around at the time and this amazing date caramel sauce we had. Wrap it up, pop it in a press for a bit. I’m not a breakfast person and generally all I can stand to eat for the first bit after waking up is bread, fruit and nuts. You can add a bit of oatmeal in there too.
I actually do this one, mix of peppers, onions, different mushrooms maybe, garlic and olives fried up and then use 2 toasted (on a pan not in a toaster) portobello mushrooms. I’ve also done the mushroom for bread with a leftover red cabbage and carrot vinaigrette coleslaw, vegan Russian dressing, saeurkraut and tempeh and it was a sorta reuben. Fucking amazing.
see this is what i’m about. this mfer turned a veggie stir fry into a sandwich
I give a shit about sandwiches. My livelihood since I’ve started working has been about food I have done fine dining, high end catering for millionaire ‘charity’ dinners, done riders for Rockstar, catered business summits that I wish I knew how to bomb effectively, hole in the wall vegan places, a string of random other restaurants and also doing craft service for movies. One huge thing I have learned over this career is that every single person on this planet really just wants to eat a great sandwich. Liz Lemon was entirely correct on that one. There is no better food format, the other most popular is bowl of stuff and rice and thst requires a bowl and a utensil. The Sandwich is the absolute food of the people. Packable, portable, gets the job done at worst and is among the best damn food ever at best. There is a reason burgers and pizzas and sausages on buns in hotdogs form are absolutely massive, they’re fantastic. Form, function and flavor as well as an unlimited well of variety. The sandwich has it all.
You get it
If I had my own restaurant somehow it would be almost entirely sandwich focused. Soup of the day, a few salads and maybe house made potato chips or wedges or something but the main thing would be the best fucking sandwiches ever. I’m at a point I could run a successful place but also don’t wanna
Funny, my win the lottery restaurant is the stew kitchen that also serves sandwiches. Stew is like $2 a ladle, sandwich is $20 on account of the artisanal craft. Except if I think you look cool in which case you just get the sandwich
I’ve got a few really really good soups thst I csn rotate but it’s not something I’m as good at. I do amazing tomato basil, roasted red pepper, ‘cream’ of mushroom, Moroccan stew, potato paprika and I am in fact the pope of chilli town. Other than my mains I’m not great at soup
Onigiri, assuming it’s stuffed with something. Comes with its own edible wrapper and everything.
I’m currently eating them on long bike rides to hit my carbs and it’s working pretty well.
No, I’m pretty sure that’s a jelly donut. I saw it in a documentary once.
Spanakopita is a sandwich with phyllo as bread.
Baklava is a serial, stacked, homogeneous sandwich on phyllo.
Gibanitsa is a sandwich on phyllo that is serial, stacked, and heterogeneous.
Jibarito is Western style but uses a plantain instead of bread
Edit: ok I see what you’re looking for now. I’m sorry you’re limited to three spatial dimensions
Jibarito
This fits! the bread is essential to the western concept!
Oh, okay. Then in that case you’ll also like Mos Burger’s yakiniku burger in Japan that uses rice instead of buns.
Tortas, imagine a burrito in sandwich form.
Paninis are the grilled cheese’s classy older sibling. But some balsamic-portobello mushrooms, tomatoes, basil and a vegan cheese in a sandwich with ciabatta bread, grill it and serve.
I want to try a vegan croque monsieur recipe (ham and cheese but
), but I need to find a good recipe.Tortas, imagine a burrito in sandwich form.
oh so a sandwich formed sandwich then?
Oh, I’m silly lemme correct that.
I could probably figure something out there. I have access to some decent quality fake ham where I live tho, not really a flavor I’ve attempted from scratch. An almond mozzarella is probably what you’re gonna want for cheese. I’ve wanted to try making mozza with tofu and have a game plan but that’s a day in the lab and I’ve been busting my ass in the kitchen I work at a lot lately.
