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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 days ago

Forcing AI Companies to Respect Copyright Would "Kill the Industry"

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Forcing AI Companies to Respect Copyright Would "Kill the Industry"

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 days ago
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According to Nick Clegg, the AI industry wouldn't exist if developers were required to ask for permission to use one's works for AI training.
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  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    Oh sure NOW tech bros don’t like copyright anymore

    • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]@hexbear.net
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      No they’re still consistent on opposing anything that makes them less money.

      • bort [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        It’s funny that the capitalist class aren’t consistent on this though.

        Old media corps (Disney, etc.) make their money by overprotecting their IPs, while the younger tech giants are going to make more money with liberal laws regarding copyright and AI.

        Not sure it’ll end up good for us on the ground regardless but it’s nice to see them fight.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s always “it’s MY IP to sit on and do nothing with, respect the heckin’ property rightserino!” when it serves them, and the nanosecond a poor possibly has something they want, suddenly its “IdEaS aRe MeAnT tO bE sHaReD!1!1!1”

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    i choose to hold the syncretic and internally inconsistent position that copyright law should be used to expropriate all these AI companies to death, and then be repealed immediately.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t think it is inconsistent to oppose both copyright and plagiarism.

      • Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        We just need a forever expanding attribution list, even if we get rid of copyright.

        X was created by Dave, Y was created by Eliza based on work by Dave, Z was created by Joaquin based on work by Dave and Eliza and so on.

        Academics already do this when citing sources, just make everyone else do it too.

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Academics already do this when citing sources, just make everyone else do it too.

          Academics are supposed to do this when citing sources, now it’s more like “here’s a paper with a title that looks relevant whose abstract I barely read at the end of this sentence to make it look more authoritative” or “Here’s the last paper I wrote on this subject.”

          • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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            5 self-referencing papers deeper, “oh, you actually did take the time to write the methods…10 years ago.”

            • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              It happens so much! meow-tableflip

        • Owl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          “What was this based on and how did I change it” is a great start to an alternative to copyright.

          "Bee movie but it speeds up every time they say ‘bee’ " is the gold standard for artistic attribution.

          • worlds_okayest_mech_pilot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            "Bee movie but it speeds up every time they say ‘bee’ " is the gold standard for artistic attribution.

            Me providing citations for my fanfiction like: “Gundam but I made it even gayer.”

    • EatPotatoes [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Just expropriate the ai companies and stop new data centers

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  • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    A colleague who works in AI was just going off about how China has no IP laws (not true) that allow them to get away with stealing data for their AI. I brought up Meta torrenting thousands of books for their AI and they insisted it was different lol

    Very tiring

    • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      us-foreign-policy

      • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Sadly this person is also on the bottom half of that list. Being in the burger reich truly rots the brain

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    Good. It should die.

    AI is trash, and the only folks impressed with it are uneducated and unskilled to begin with- they don’t see all the inaccuracies nor do they have the capacity to see how flawed it is.

    It’s essentially just a parrot, with an immense library to work from. An admin can tell it to give improper information and it will. That isn’t “intelligence”, artificial or otherwise. It’s just a big match game of matching a response to a prompt and doing so just well enough to fool the average user…of sixth grade intelligence.

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      Insult to parrots to be honest, parrots are actual living beings with feelings and consciousness. Something the tech-bro tickle-me-elmos don’t possess

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        Yah this is Apollo and Alex slander lmao

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    Warning signs of an industry that shouldnt exist in the first place.

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    Good!

  • SuperZutsuki [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Someone get AI to make an open-source copy of the Adobe suite

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      If that were to ever happen this “AI” industry would disappear entirely with dozens of rounds of government regulation and lawsuits up the ass.

      I know that “AI” will never be good because if it was it would spell disaster for oligarchs everywhere who profit off of privatized tech.

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        They’ll just make it illegal to own computer hardware powerful enough for it to be useful for “national security” purposes.

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          They already do cripple computer hardware. It’s called Microsoft Windows and Apple MacOS ;)

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            tux

  • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    do it

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    • Ildsaye [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      but also death to copyright

      • AnarchoAnarchist [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Abolish copyright the day after we use it to destroy generative AI.

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    Forcing thieves to pay for things will kill the stolen goods industry!!!

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      Regulatory overreach like this is going to put thousands of honest wallet inspectors out of business

  • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’ve been saying this for years. Either Copyright dies, or the AI Industry dies.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Why not both.jpg

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    • buckykat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      let-them-fight

    • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netM
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      I’ll take “both deserve to die” for $500, Alex.

  • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    How do I incorporate myself as an AI company?

  • grandepequeno [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Yet THEY expect ME to actually buy books rather than get them online

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    Critical support to AI companies!

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