• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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      Yeah, tell that to the people who engineer lifts, bridges, or literally anything that might end up costing lives.

      Aw this bridge collapsed? That’s expected, we’ll improve next time!

      As aa mech engineer, I can tell you, that anything that’s worth engineering has a safety factor of 2.5-3, has a carefully predicted lifespan and maintenance cycles, and is 100% not expected to fail. A failure is always a failure, unless its specific purpose is to fail.

      Sending a rocket to space and seeing half of its rockets not fire is not an “expected failure”.

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        Safety factor on something like a rocket is much smaller. More like 1.2-1.5. Weight is so important in any sort of flight that the safety factor is reduced.

        Lower safety factors don’t explain the rockets abysmal failure rate though. Its a total POS by any measure.

      • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yeah, tell that to the people who engineer lifts, bridges, or literally anything that might end up costing lives.

        Ah, so you think that bridges last forever and cannot fail?

        As aa mech engineer

        Pretty shit one if you don’t expect failures in what you make, honestly

        • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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          You are so fucking far from understanding how any of this works, and so deep up Musk’s exit, that it’s not worth my time replying to your trolling.

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            I hope they are trolling. They have a fundamental misunderstanding of acceptable failure in experimentation. If you’re building the final product and it’s failing constantly, you completely fucked up in design, testing, and QC. So instead of good engineering they are shoveling money into a fire pit by building full scale prototypes that are incapable of coming close to achieving design goals.

          • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            so deep up Musk’s exit

            Lol, and the cap to truly show you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Truly a master class in being a fucking dipshit you are

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              Keep on parroting that Muskian PR shit. Whatever it takes keep away from the facts they were talking about boots on Mars by 2024, and all that they have delivered is a cooked banana to the ocean.

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                Again: whatever makes your dumb ass feel better, you’re a fucking idiot for thinking I’m a musk fan and continuing to do so after being corrected just makes you look stupider

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      Am mechE. This is an unacceptable failure rate. It means they are several years away from manned flights on these rockets. It’s a complete failure of a project currently.

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        We were supposed to have regular ships back and forth Mars at this point and a thriving interplanetary society blah blah blah.

        For what reason? what were they supposed to be ferrying? We never got that detailed out, I think we just weren’t ketamined enough to understand.

        Instead we have motherfucking nazis making a comeback and he’s leading them. I want to speak to a manager.

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          Eh. Using a weird goal to push engineering boundaries isn’t necessarily bad. Is going to mars sort of pointless? Yes, but it would help us continue to improve technology that otherwise not be funded.

          Definitely shouldn’t be giving money to the nazi though. NASA should be given all the money fElon is getting IMO.

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            There are so many different, and better, reasons to get rockets out into our solar system aside from trying to forcibly terraform a dead rock.

            Asteroids worth trillions in precious metals, diamonds, whatever the fuck — it’s out there waiting to be tapped.

            Musk uses Mars as a ‘weird goal’ because it evokes feelings of a time when science fiction still represented ‘the future that could be’. He’s playing his base, nothing else. If he were actually trying to benefit humanity his focus would be the moon, then the belt.