Veganism seems to fall so obviously out of leftist beliefs, there are definitely other ways to get there but even if you are a speciest animal ag is so wantonly destructive, intensive, exploitative, colonial, and abusive to human workers not being against it is a big question mark.
I want to be charitable to people, I understand that deprogramming yourself can take a while, but when people have been aware that veganism is an option for months/years without taking any material steps… I dunno, are you just a treatlerite mad you don’t have enough treats?
Has anyone had any real progress making other leftists they meet vegan? I’ve only managed to get three people to permanently adopt the philosophy in my life. None of those were particularly leftist, just justice sympathetic.
edit: I actually want to hear from other vegans in the vegan comm. Shocking I know.
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Where’s the lie, though?
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I really don’t mean to. Like I don’t barge into the POC threads explaining why I’m actually a good and innocent white person or whatever, I would assume that other people would be at least as polite as to not answer stuff not directed at them but w/e.
Yeah, like I’m not going to be defending any carnist habits here, because this obviously isn’t the place for it, but that doesn’t mean everyone else will. Hopefully people will show some self-restraint, if you weren’t intending to start a struggle session and just a discussion.
Nah I just want to know how other’s have faired and hear vegan perspectives. You know how you feel when you’re like out and about and everyone you’re with starts circlejerking about how awesome idk elon musk trying to rule the world is and why capitalism is great. You start wondering if it’s hopeless, or if you’re mad?
Every meal outside my household is that basically. Food and food practices are so integral to human life, and even going and doing leftist political shit a good 2/3 of people will be completely hostile to veganism so there isn’t even really the escape of comradeship to ground yourself.
One of the only places to connect with an array of different vegans with different experiences is places like this but then… well… gestures virtually.
Yeah, if people are dumb enough to demand you not criticise them in a space not meant for them then they deserve the ban.
Also, this post is in the vegan comm. If carnists can’t control their desire to be shitty about veganism in the vegan comm, then I’m not quite sure why we have one, you know? This post isn’t fedposting, this post isn’t bait, this post is an attempt to converse with other vegans about the intersection of veganism and leftism, and if we can’t have that conversation here, in a comm specifically meant for vegans on a leftist instance, then where can we have it?