I have no confidence that Tesla will fix this before the planned Robo-Taxi rollout in Austin in 2 weeks.
After all, they haven’t fixed it in the last 9 years that self-driving Teslas have been on the road.
So motorcyclists weren’t enough, they’re going after kids now? Did they move their headquarters to israel?
rofl
Let’s not get carried away pretending America cares too much about children dying frfr.
Yeah once they’re out of the womb, fuck 'em. We only care about the unborn.
They don’t actually care about the unborn either. They just want women to suffer, that’s always been the only goal.
Yeah the draconian punishment and outcry when someone dares to overtake a school bus is absolutely laughable.
Give that child chance to be shot the next day in school! Or starve to death, because they can’t afford school lunches.
If we did the Carolina Lean is a bigger threat than Elon, but somehow that’s legal in most states.
The children were hamas obviously
They were behind white genocide in South Africa
“And if you don’t support killing them, you support terrorists, mmmkaaaaayyyy” — Bill Maher
Not unexpected.
They should throw in a loony tunes landscape for extra comedic value.
Mark Rober already did that.
Elon is not going to personally take responsibility for his cars?
How the fuck, will this get the go ahead? In the US you can sue anyone for anything, how long before a class action gets filed against Tesla and their death traps?
Tesla owns the gov rn, litigation against tesla will be domestic terorism
Oh don’t worry, the grifters will all have cashed out and be floating away on golden parachutes long after the decades of litigation is over.
Waymo, which I think grew out of the original Google self-driving car project, has been operating robo-taxis for several years. They’re available in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and a few more cities. I wonder how they did on the schoolbus test. Not able to find anything online about that. They use different car manufacturers from China, UK, Germany, and it looks like one of them (Jaguar Land Rover) is owned or partly owned by Ford. So data about the individual cars is kind of hard to track down.
Atlanta is the latest launch city, they are all white Jaguar i-Paces.
Waymo had non-standard stop-signs figured out six years ago XD Feels essential to running a half-way responsible autonomous car service?
These things need tires.
Tires are rubber.
Texas has a lot of guns.
You can literally wear a mask and just put tape over a couple cameras while it’s stopped at a light and the whole thing will just freak out. Spray paint is probably even faster.
Faster to apply and much harder to remove.
This one is pretty unforgivable. Supposedly the ability to detect these situations was added in December (according to the article) but it’s clearly not working very well. Something like this should 100% pause the rollout of robo-taxis.
For normal cars though, the drivers should press the brakes to disable FSD when they see their car not slowing down when approaching a stopped bus like this.
Except the big danger with fully self driving cars is that drivers are not paying attention at all as they have nothing to do most of the time. They’ll be on their phones regardless of what theyre supposed to do and that will cause deaths. So such a glaring safety flaw will have numerous opportunities to happen in real life - humans do not make good safety features in cars; thats what the self drive stuff was for.
Teslas self drive technology is not fit for the roads regardless of this. Musk had sensors stripped out pf the cars design to save money because apparently he knows better than all the worlds self drive engineers. The guy is a just an investment bro woth a huge ego - he can’t let the people hes investing in get onwith it, because he sees himself as a “genius”. The guys a moron.
Linus tech tips recently reviewed a car with semi auto self driving. It can keep you in the lane and at the right speed. He said it’s perfect for school zones because he knows he doesn’t have to watch the Speedo and give that extra attention to watching for kids walking out. I have to agree with him, there is a school on my commute and the speed drops to 20mph. I let the car do that bit while I worry about little (or sometimes big) feet.
Would I trust that system to spot a child before I do? Not a chance.
That’s why I use the speed limiter in residential areas. I can’t drive faster so I don’t have to check the speed. But when I take my foot of the pedal, the car slows down.
Outside residential area and on highway I use the adaptive cruise control.
They’ll be on their phones regardless of what theyre supposed to do and that will cause deaths.
So no different to in non self-driving cars then.
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Fight Club taught me the cost of human life to corporations.
If PredictedLawsuitLosses < CostOfRecall then RecallNotAnnounced
Human life doesn’t factor in at all for them.
Human life absolutely factors into predicted lawsuit losses. Wrongful death lawsuits are expensive.
What I meant is they don’t care about people as people.
It’s just a number to them.
If they can profit of millions dying and they know they could get away with it, they would.
But not expensive enough to stop them killing people through negligence and greed.
Some of you may die~
But it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
This is why capitalists align with fascists.
Google, Meta, etc, are all taking the knee, because no regulation lets them slurp up our data. Target is shooting itself in the foot on DEI to appease stupid Mussolini, because a fascist autocrat doesn’t enforce labor protections.
Fascism, at its core, is an alignment between government and corporations. Capitalists align with fascism because that’s the entire point of fascism.
Damn, must suck living in the US
I lived there for six-ish years- from 1998 until 2004.
When Americans re-elected GWB, I realized “this place is RAPIDLY becoming a shithole that’s only going to get worse.” I got the hell out as soon as I was able, and every single day since, I’ve been more relieved I left when I did.
I’d be down if and when they do better than human drivers. Until then, there’s trains.
They hate trains…“THERE IS ONLY TWO GENDERS!”
The problem is, it’s already better than the worst human drivers, it’s just that that’s too low a bar. It’s a looong way away from being better than the best human drivers (think taxi and bus drivers who do it every day, or police who actually go through extra vehicle handling training)
I would generally agree with that statement but it seems the spirit of this thread is solidly in opposition. It would be make/model dependent, and Tesla has demonstrated their lack of safety.
It would be make/model dependent
I’m specially talking about Tesla’s FSD/Autopilot.
While getting a demo of FSD from a friend, their Model 3 correctly stopped at a red light, and 30 seconds later a car ran right through it in the next lane over. That’s how low the bar is for “worst human driver”. Tbh, that human shouldn’t have been on the road if they’re driving past stopped cars through a red light.I would asset your anecdote is definitely not proof positive of Tesla FSD being better than humans statistically, but it’s true that most public sentiment is inaccurate in assessing their FSD as either flawless or a murder-suicide mobile.
I’ve been behind the wheel when FSD was going to run a red light for me, twice in the same trip. It does perform impressively well most of the time, and if I could wave a magic wand, I’d put Tesla software in a more reputable brand’s car with LIDAR. Musk is a moron for going cameras only (and about fifty other things).
On the bright side, maybe this is building up to an “owner of the Segway company”-type ending?
Tesla self driving is already responsible for the deaths of multiple people.
They weren’t held accountable for those.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
If regular school shootings were no reason to actually do something, why would regular deadly accidents with self driving systems be one? I’m always amazed by what Americans are willing to tolerate.
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It’s only a matter of time before they direct their ire towards the ones who put them in that position.
I’d not hold my breath waiting for that. Why do you think billionaires own almost all newspapers/social media/mainstream media? They’ll always find someone or something else to blame, keep us divided. And this has worked well enough for centuries.
There’s been like 3 CEO’S murdered this year
Chin up
That’s slightly different since most states will put full responsibility on the driver even for autonomous cars. If there’s no driver, though, it would go back to the manufacturer. That’s why Uber gave up on self driving after one of their test cars ran over someone.
Much like the mass shootings in the U.S., there’s literally no solution for this. /s
Where is Luigi
Well, what are we 'aposta do?!
Strangle these defenseless corporations with the same kind of regulations we continue to create and impose on small businesses? Do you even know who their father is?!
You got the strangle part right.
So, the USA people are the beta testers, i guess.
Put some respect to their name, off course they are alpha (males!) testers.
only Texans… (with the robotaxis)
Texas state legislature has passed a law making it illegal for cities to pass laws more restrictive than the state laws and Austin which is known to be full of progressives. This makes it a perfect place for Tesla to beta-test it’s software. They’ll kill people likely to vote for Democrats.
Thoughts and prayers.
Might also explain why they’re the only ones that seem to have all this knowledge of a population crisis that no one else is aware of.
Thank God for the technocratic elite, and their foresight to know their plans for greatness will almost certainly wipe out the entire U.S. population. Hazard of being part of the unwashed masses, I guess.
Glad they are doing all this while they simultaneously argue that a loss of our personal liberty is a small price to pay for their protection. If they weren’t keeping us safe from… ::gestures vaguely:: China(?) then who would?
I knew I was better than a Tesla. I actually got my Class A for driving a school bus. I can legally drive pretty much anything on wheels, because the school bus pretty much requires everything. Even hazardous material training. Just in case the government needs to use a school bus to offload nuclear waste or something. I just like to think the kids are toxic. 🤷🏻♂️
When I worked with kids, there were a lot of biohazards. Mostly shit, snot, and piss, but on a bus you’ll probably get a fair bit of puke too. I’m guessing the driver has to clean the bus.
I’m wondering if maybe it was just your driving style
You have to have hazmat to drive a school bus?!?
Just some minor training associated with it. I do not actually have a hazmat endorsement; it’s literally just a special thing for school buses because they are allowed to be used to transport such material in an emergency.
But the training would make it rather easy to obtain the endorsement, if I really wanted it (I do not tho).
