• DasherPack@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, I can imagine that. Tobacco companies have been selling better smoking (first, electric cigarettes, then vapes) for decades.

    Without control, companies will always want to sell more

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      First the cigarette itself was marketed as better than rolling your own. Next came filters, so called “light” and “ultralight” versions of existing products, electric cigs, then finally vapes.

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      Imagine if we ran out of war. All those jobs in the military and the military industrial complex!

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      Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

      The only problem was the fact that they got away with doing shit like advertising it to kids and making it cool. Fix that problem and vaping is almost literally only an advantage compared to cigarettes.

      And even with more people taking it up, it’s still unhealthy but it’s like mildly unhealthy instead of cigarettes where it’s like oh yeah you’re going to double your chance of dying at 50.

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        Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

        Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

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          Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we’re going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it’s like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

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            1 year ago

            The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

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              For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

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                For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn’t before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.