Just realized that the first time the Swarm was on a CoD game was on BO2, which takes place in 2025, lmfao

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      My idea was to show that because said Russian soldier probably played Black Ops 2 (or even the 2023 Modern Warfare III) and saw a Swarm scorestreak on that game, he’d have instant flashbacks triggered by seeing the drone swarm lol

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      Minor correction, it’s a million casualties on the Russian side. Dead number is probably around 300k.

      But seriously, imagine going from the number 2 world power to a paper tiger that relies on old stock because they don’t have the manufacturing capabilities to mass produce new equipment. They can barely keep the old shit running.

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      I mean, its a war. Nobody is playing “fair” and you’re delusional if you think they ever were.

      But it’s crazy to fixate on Russian losses and ignore the devastation rained on Ukrainian territory. Or the enormous debts Zelensky has had to assume in order to continue importing new munitions and mercenaries to fight. We’ve already seen bombings inside Moscow and assassination attempts (more than a few successful even) against Russian military and state security leadership. But that’s not budging the front lines. Neither is it curbing the continuous barrage of artillery and Russian-based retaliatory drone attacks.

      This is just the Iraq-Iran War on steroids. Two countries absolutely butchering their youth in a vainglorious attempt to claim hegemony over a minefield.

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        If you were to apply this same logic during various points during the world wars, you’d have been calling for the allies to surrender.

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          Imagine if people had listened at the start of WW1 and stopped the fighting before Germany, Russia, and France were in trench warfare melee.

          How awful would that have been? What would a world without The Battle For The Somme even look like today? Presumably much worse.

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          Ukraine is obviously the victim here. The Ukrainian people are amazing and have their own rich history and culture as well that deserves to be preserved and respected and cultivated. They do not deserve any of this.

          It’s weird to suggest anyone would. But we’ve been hearing about how “Now is the time for a Ukrainian counterattack!” since 2022. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian conscripts got shoveled into Russian defense lines and butchered by mines and artillery, while Westerners cheered like they were watching some kind of pro-sporting event.

          FFS, you can find videos all over the internet of Ukrainians and Russians butchering one another and bragging about it. You can find bespoke influencer news networks bragging about how their team is “Owning” the opposition with grisly reprisals. They’re trending all over social media.

          Talking about one does not mean I don’t care about the other.

          It’s just a show for the West. You don’t actually give a shit, because you don’t see (or care) about the cost anyone is paying.

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            You will never find anybody as morally reprehensible as Marxists who support and defend Russia’s genocide in Ukraine. Go fuck yourself Russian shill

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              Marxists want the war to end and the working people to stop killing one another to the benefit of their bosses.

              Only the imperialists need you to take sides in order to continue the killing.

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                No, fuck off moron. Russia started this war, they’re committing a genocide, and they’re 100% responsible for ALL of it. Trying to “both sides” the most obviously one sided conflict in the world by blaming the victims for defending themselves puts you and your shitty ideology in the same tier as nazis, which sounds about right for Marxism. You support and defend Russia’s imperialist genocide, you’re morally reprehensible.

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                  Trying to “both sides” the most obviously one sided conflict

                  Same line Americans used in Afghanistan and Iraq. Same line the Israelis are using in Gaza.

                  The genocidal impulse runs through the West like a plague. All you people know how to do is shoot and cry.

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            This entire post is literally about a successful counterattack on Russian soil. One with zero Ukrainian casualties.

            What, exactly, do you want from this conversation? People to recognize that Ukrainians are suffering? They do recognize that - that’s why they don’t want Ukraine to lose.

            A defeated Ukraine would suffer far worse than they are now, as retribution for defending themselves and embarassing Russia in the process. Ukrainians would inevitably be conscripted to fight in Russia’s next attempt at conquest anyway.

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              One with zero Ukrainian casualties.

              Zero reported casualties. And then nobody wants to talk about retaliation as a consequence.

              A defeated Ukraine would suffer far worse

              “Things will be worse once the bombs stop falling” is pure war propaganda.

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                Lol what unreported casualties do you imagine there could even be? The drone operators developing carpal tunnel? If they had identified Ukrainians smuggling weapons platforms into the country, the whole operation would have failed.

                And then nobody wants to talk about retaliation as a consequence.

                Right, because Russia hasn’t been trying until now? They haven’t really tried to crush Ukraine, they’ve just been playing around? But now that Ukraine has bloodied their nose, boy are they sure gonna find out what Russia’s capable of. Lol.

                “Things will be worse once the bombs stop falling” is pure war propaganda.

                No, “things will be worse when a nation is conquered by a hostile dictatorship” is not propaganda. Ukraine knows that for a fact, because they’ve been through this before.

                Seriously, what do you even want here? What is the point of this? You want capitulation and appeasement?

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                  Lol

                  What is it with the 101st Chairborn and their need to make light of human casualties?

                  what unreported casualties do you imagine there could even be?

                  Intelligence on the ground, particularly spotters near the target, would be the most obvious potential liabilities.

                  But now that Ukraine has bloodied their nose

                  They’ve been bloodying one another for years on end. This isn’t the first successfully Ukrainian strike since the war started.

                  Seriously, what do you even want here?

                  To quite treating this bloodbath as a fucking football game.

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              I am just teasing out exciting (well as exciting as war can be, which is horrific)

              I wish people were more willing to confront the horror and less eager to speculate on the excitement.

              Instead, we just see bloodlust. People online clutching their keyboards in rapt anticipation of the next bombing or shelling or assassination, like this isn’t costing uncounted civilian lives to put points on the board.

              What do you want? More solemnity? Do you want us to not cheer for Ukraine? I mean what the hell is your goal?

              To get people to see this as an ongoing disaster, tragedy, and fundamental political failure, rather than some kind of CoD Twitch Stream epic playthrough.