The Western ‘free’ population is one of the most information censored/restricted populations in the world, and yet they are flabbergasted that China and many many other nations won’t allow propaganda from western oligarchs into their country. It doesn’t matter that an information firewall is the single most important military defense against the Capitalist information war. That’s btw why the western world are propagandizing their population for ‘free speech’, so we all can see that wevil China don’t want free propaganda, sorry, speech.
The most amazing and Incredible is how hateful attitudes can be bought for a few propaganda dollars in the western for profit information market. So western people actually believe all the hateful things the western oligarchy says about China (and ALL the other enemies of the oligarchs).
How convenient and completely coincidental that the western population have the same opinions about nations and world leaders as the top elite… Could it be that… nooooo… no no… Western news are the BEST, and no Capitalist elite would lie about something like that to their own population, oh no no…
Yes, that’s a perfectly good explanation for why they need to block wikipedia, deviantart, archiveofourown, github, bandcamp, lemmy.ml, and mastodon.social: they’re all just fronts in the Capitalist Information War
Well, they’re all methods by which culturally-bankrupt, ideologically-tinged art and tech from the West could potentially slip past, ESPECIALLY where settler techbros are concerned regarding github; but you’re being a deliberately-obtuse settler sinophobe right now, so of course you’re not going to absorb that.
Suuure… nothing to do with the fact that they’re a decadent and corrupt failed socialist dictatorship, no sir. Not at all an attempt at stopping ACTUAL communists from toppling their government, oh no.
And there’s the predictable, seemingly unavoidable Western need to project their own conditions onto anyone they declare an enemy of state. If you really believe CIA-backed color revolters are the ‘actual communists’, you’ve done no investigation of your own, and as a result don’t deserve the voice you confidently, ignorantly speak with.
Much as I enjoy arguments with strangers on the Internet, you’ve reminded me of my resolution to avoid the most silly ones. If you think I’m a sinophobe your judgement is very poor.
Largely unwittingly. Most of us are labor aristocrats of the imperial core who have been propagandized our entire lives in liberal imperialist ideology.
Then there’s the media.
Joseph Kahn, the managing editor of the NYT, is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations, as are the CEOs of NPR (here’s Katherine Maher again) and PBS. These are just ones I know off the top of my head. The Council of Foreign Relations is a place where the government and the capitalist class hash out the media’s agenda. On its founding, Walter Lippman was its head of research. The title of Noam Chomsky & Edward Herman’s Manufacturing Consent came from a quote in Lippmann’s book, Public Opinion.
A couple more I can think of: CNN’s Anderson Cooper was born into money and interned at the CIA. MSNBC’s Jen Psaki, who was also born into wealth, was Obama’s and Biden’s press secretary.
Nah if you are advocating censorship you are trash and in a just world you and your family and those that supported you would be dead. A world without freedom of association is a world that isn’t worth defending. That includes when capitalist entities censor things that threaten their bottom line but it still applies when not-quite-capitalists entities censor as well.
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
The Western ‘free’ population is one of the most information censored/restricted populations in the world, and yet they are flabbergasted that China and many many other nations won’t allow propaganda from western oligarchs into their country. It doesn’t matter that an information firewall is the single most important military defense against the Capitalist information war. That’s btw why the western world are propagandizing their population for ‘free speech’, so we all can see that wevil China don’t want free propaganda, sorry, speech.
The most amazing and Incredible is how hateful attitudes can be bought for a few propaganda dollars in the western for profit information market. So western people actually believe all the hateful things the western oligarchy says about China (and ALL the other enemies of the oligarchs).
How convenient and completely coincidental that the western population have the same opinions about nations and world leaders as the top elite… Could it be that… nooooo… no no… Western news are the BEST, and no Capitalist elite would lie about something like that to their own population, oh no no…
Yes, that’s a perfectly good explanation for why they need to block wikipedia, deviantart, archiveofourown, github, bandcamp, lemmy.ml, and mastodon.social: they’re all just fronts in the Capitalist Information War
Well, they’re all methods by which culturally-bankrupt, ideologically-tinged art and tech from the West could potentially slip past, ESPECIALLY where settler techbros are concerned regarding github; but you’re being a deliberately-obtuse settler sinophobe right now, so of course you’re not going to absorb that.
Suuure… nothing to do with the fact that they’re a decadent and corrupt failed socialist dictatorship, no sir. Not at all an attempt at stopping ACTUAL communists from toppling their government, oh no.
Blows my mind how people like you can ciriticise another government and ingore the centuries of atrocities committed by your own.
This! Right on, western society is heavily indoctrinated.
And there’s the predictable, seemingly unavoidable Western need to project their own conditions onto anyone they declare an enemy of state. If you really believe CIA-backed color revolters are the ‘actual communists’, you’ve done no investigation of your own, and as a result don’t deserve the voice you confidently, ignorantly speak with.
Disinformation bot says what?
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Much as I enjoy arguments with strangers on the Internet, you’ve reminded me of my resolution to avoid the most silly ones. If you think I’m a sinophobe your judgement is very poor.
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Lies, skullduggery, and willful ignorance in service of manifold atrocity have always been the settler’s stock-in-trade.
I don’t want protecting, please open it up and let all the fascists here get absolutely fucking decimated every time they post something online.
Katherine Maher used to be the CEO of Wikimedia. Her resume is riddled with US military-industrial complex:
Meet Wikipedia’s Ayn Rand-loving founder and Wikimedia Foundation’s regime-change operative CEO
Wikipedia formally censors The Grayzone as regime-change advocates monopolize editing
Largely unwittingly. Most of us are labor aristocrats of the imperial core who have been propagandized our entire lives in liberal imperialist ideology.
Then there’s the media.
Joseph Kahn, the managing editor of the NYT, is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations, as are the CEOs of NPR (here’s Katherine Maher again) and PBS. These are just ones I know off the top of my head. The Council of Foreign Relations is a place where the government and the capitalist class hash out the media’s agenda. On its founding, Walter Lippman was its head of research. The title of Noam Chomsky & Edward Herman’s Manufacturing Consent came from a quote in Lippmann’s book, Public Opinion.
A couple more I can think of: CNN’s Anderson Cooper was born into money and interned at the CIA. MSNBC’s Jen Psaki, who was also born into wealth, was Obama’s and Biden’s press secretary.
Nah if you are advocating censorship you are trash and in a just world you and your family and those that supported you would be dead. A world without freedom of association is a world that isn’t worth defending. That includes when capitalist entities censor things that threaten their bottom line but it still applies when not-quite-capitalists entities censor as well.
Super normal thing to say to people who are sick of being inundated with dehumanizing propaganda from a genocidal empire.
Leave Hexbear and you will see a lot less propaganda from a genocidal empire.
This is rich coming from the imperial core that brought a century of humiliation upon China and is actively genociding the Palestinian people. China is neither an empire nor genocidal, despite the Nine Eyes propaganda you’re swimming in.
China is committing genocide. Israel is committing genocide, with the support of western powers.
Two things can be true at once.
As I have expounded on over a dozen times, China is not committing genocide, cultural or otherwise, but I will copypasta some of it nonetheless.
The US’s “Uyghur genocide” disinformation campaign has already been debunked several times over.
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The blueprint of regime change operations
You’ve been subpoenaed by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
I fucking love that guy. If you’re reading this, please never stop reporting.