An undercover police officer arranged to buy 2 magic mushroom chocolate bars over Instagram then opened fire within seconds, killing the driver and injuring the passenger for selling $100 worth of antidepressants. Perfectly justified.

  • Hegar@kbin.socialOP
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    8 months ago

    they didn’t kill him over “nothing” they killed him over the flee attempt.

    The decision was: do I let this kid get away with selling 2 shroom bars or do I deploy potentially lethal force?

    If someone’s unnecessarily killed during say an armed robbery, they weren’t killed over nothing, even if they could’ve been arrested.

    Police are empowered to use violence with the understanding that it will benefit society. And most will agree that preventing armed robbery has value.

    This officer deployed violence to prevent a kid from getting away with selling 2 shroom bars. Without any personal threat. That has no value to society, nothing. And a kid was killed over it.

    I don’t understand why the particular events that happened before that seem so important to you?

    • skeptomatic@lemmy.ca
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      8 months ago

      That wasn’t the decision. There’s not an ice cube’s chance in hell he went through the longer thought process it would take at the speed events unfolded to contemplate, “hmm, you know what, this kid has 2 whole mushroom bars in that car and he appears to be trying to leave with them, and he’s now accelerating towards me, or at least in such a close proximity to me that it’s now dangerous, probably not dangerous for my colleagues whom have just driven up because I can see the future like a Jedi all of a sudden and know what’s going to happen before it happens, but they still have those damn mushroom bars and my partner and I we’re going to split one of them after the bust and I owe him for talking that hooker he busted last weekend into getting let off in trade for giving me a free beeg behind Wendys, so I really need those mushroom bars and that’s totally the reason I better start blasting.”
      😆

      The decision was, “suspect driving at me, he’s now a danger to me or my colleagues, shoot at danger.”

      Don’t matter how they all got there.
      Cops and correction officers are trained to take the decision making process out of the equation for faster reaction times.
      I’m in no way saying that’s the best, or even a good-at-all way to train cops, but it’s predictable.

      So, what’d we all learn?
      This cop in question certainly is a fuck up and should be fired, and charged for the extant he can be.
      Officer training needs work.
      2 mushroom bars remains a very stupid reason to arrest someone in the first place, and mushrooms should be legalized. But it doesn’t matter in this case because laws are laws.
      The Victim was killed over attempting to flee, because we know now how cause-and-effect works, and the mushroom bars can’t be the cause because had he not fled, he wouldn’t have been shot at and killed.
      Ops tag line was sensationalized to remove blame from the vic and add blame to the cops because, well they deserve it, but also because we’re in the police problem sub. It lacks though because, “2 magic mushroom chocolate bars” can be substituted with, “bust”, or, “drug deal gone wrong”, or, “waxing gibbous moon”…and those would all be valid, therefore if it’s any of them, it’s none.
      They were there and present over mushroom bars, but the Victim was killed over ( what I’m sure the cop will say in court is) attempt vehicular homicide.
      And, Don’t.fucking.run.from.cops. regardless of their training.
      Cheers.