Film about ‘father of the atomic bomb’ finally opens in Japan after being delayed by outrage at ‘Barbenheimer’ memes

Archived version: https://archive.ph/8vjF7

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    7 months ago

    So you’d rather have twice as many die during the invasion that would have been needed for Japan to surrender without the bomb?

    Nukes are the only reason Japan wasn’t wiped out entirely via invasion.

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        7 months ago

        That isn’t a “What If”, that was literally our plan if the bomb was not developed in time.

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            7 months ago

            Curious, what do they teach you about Japanese involvement in WW2 in your (presumably Japan’s) education system?

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              7 months ago

              The mothers and babies who were incinerated by American nukes weren’t involved. Wanna go after the Japanese Army or government? Go for it. Don’t murder babies and call it a good thing

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                7 months ago

                Do you hold the Japanese military to the same standards w.r.t. their war crimes in East Asia?

                Rape of nanking in particular comes to mind as an example where they are not abiding by the standards you suggest.

                I would argue that was much crueler than nukes.

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                  Yes, yes I do hold them to that standard. The Japanese Army did atrocious things in China, and just like Americans, they justified it by claiming it was the lesser evil. I don’t understand why you think Japan’s war crimes are a justification for nuking a city. Especially since nobody knew about those atrocities at the time, and also because Americans have never cared about dead Chinese.

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                7 months ago

                Who is calling it a good thing? Nobody in this thread is celebrating the bombing. They are saying it was necessary or at least justified and they are more correct than you.

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            7 months ago

            Friend, Japan started that war and refused to surrender. The American people literally did not want to participate in that specific war.

            The USA is really fucking good at killing people. Japan knew this and they still decided to attack.

            Loss of civilian life is unavoidable when two countries initiate a full scale war. Does it suck to be on the losing end of that? Absolutely. Unfortunately, at the time, war consisted of bombing and ground warfare. Japan seemed to have no plans to leave the USA alone so the American hand was forced to pick between the few very bad options. All of them would result in a dramatic loss of life.

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              7 months ago

              By that logic, 9/11 was justified cause of what America did to Arabs. By your logic, when your country invaded mine without cause and killed my people, it would have been justified for me to murder you and every American

              • brick@lemm.ee
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                7 months ago

                Yep, exactly the same thing. Lmao. Your awful takes are hilarious.