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With Hamas also rejecting a ceasefire this is not getting better anytime soon.
Israel did not offer a ceasefire. It makes no sense for them to do so as their goal is not to defend themselves, but to exterminate the Palestinian people.
You should maybe watch the news and get informed before you say such patently false things.
Give me the link of ISRAEL calling for a ceasefire mate
Dwhat do you think the negotiations in Egypt over the last few days have been?
Did you know there were negotiations? Do you know what negotiations are?
I’m sure I read a statement from the Israeli side but can’t find the quote. Basically Israel said they are open to a peace deal that involves the release of all the hostages and dismantling of Hamas. Obviously that was a none starter for Hamas.
The ball is still in your court to provide evidence that Israel is calling for a ceasefire
If Hamas just rejected a cease fire treaty, and Israel isn’t the person they are negotiating with, please provide the name of whose cease fire they did just reject.
You will be blocked if you are unable to answer.
The ball is still in your court to provide evidence that Israel is calling for a ceasefire
Also you might want to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Again this shit? There’s a reason Hamas has been rejecting the US’s “ceasefires”, and that’s because there’s no mechanism to prevent Israel from attacking Rafah after it ends. Israel has been clear they’ll attack Rafah either way. So throwing away all their leverage (also known as hope for a slightly less miserable future) for a pause in the genocide would just be stupid. Hamas has already stated the ceasefire they want and Israel has rejected it time and time again.
From what we heard about the Iranian government informing the families that the hostages are dead, it looks like Hamas rejected the ceasefire because they aren’t ready yet to admit they murdered the remaining hostages.
Hamas is free to give a proof of life if they have that capability.
From what we heard about the Iranian government informing the families that the hostages are dead, it looks like Hamas rejected the ceasefire because they aren’t ready yet to admit they murdered the remaining hostages.
Uh… What? Why the fuck would they even do that?
I highly doubt they fed the hostages when their own people are starving so honestly you can thank Israel for that mess lmao
It’s a crime against humanity to not feed hostages. It is also a crime to rape them.
You pro-hamas people should at least make an attempt to hide your motivations.
I’m certain you wouldn’t want to compare their kill-counts as 2 nations lmao
I could be mistaken but it appears you are attempting to either change the conversation to more benefit you and ignore uncomfortable facts about your boys,
OR,
You are implying Hamas gets to rape, torture, starve and kill because Israel is worse.
If either of those two are correct, I think the conversation is over. If a third option, please say
Let’s address just the starvation, because that was legit the only topic of conversation.
If Israel doesn’t let supplies in, how tf is “Hamas” supposed to feed their prisoners of “war?”
They’re “starving” the prisoners because they themselves can’t eat. Don’t be dense.
Are you actually arguing that Hamas is a legit governing entity with reasonable goals that include the well being of Palestinian citizens?
I mean yes. They’re a dictatorship, don’t get me wrong, and terrorists depending on who you ask, but the idea that they don’t give two shits about Palestinians and want the conflict with Israel to continue forever is simply not supported by anything from the last 20 years. Hamas can best be thought of as the Palestinian version of the Troubles IRA, and while the IRA was… That I don’t think you can argue that they didn’t want the well being of the Irish people.
Depending who you ask?
The levels of delusion on this topic has gone wild on here.
Uh… Literally yes. They’d not considered a terrorist organization in the UN, for example. Whether Hamas is a terrorist organization was never as clear cut as the US and Israel would want you to believe. Not that it matters, but there you go.
You’re willing to look at them and say you don’t think they’re a terrorist organization? And you expect to be taken seriously?
They’re doing similar things to the IDF.
I put them both in the terrorist state category.
Both terrorists, both governments.
I mean so does the UN. Anyway I recognize they do terror, but calling them a terrorist organization would be a denunciation of all their actions, not just the terror, so they’re in a weird spot.
“A mind so open their brains fell out” comes to mind.
I mean you get what you sow but this is what happens when you dont remove the weeds in time.
Israel has been planting seeds of genocide for decades. They’re getting exactly what they always wanted.
Wait they have only been planting the seeds of genocide for decades?
Then why have you all been lying to me and claiming that the genocide has been ongoing since 1967 (one person on here has even suggested that it began in the late 1890s)?
That is still “decades”…
When is the exact date of the start of the genocide? And why do none of you agree on that?
Because genocides don’t get a big rubber stamp with “we started Project: Fuck All Palestinians In the Ass on June 16th, 1955 at 13:42:33 EST”, dumbass
March 22nd, 1933.
It’s interesting that other genocides have documentation yet you are basing yours off feelings, and yet, not even sure what year you feel it is.
You are an unserious person.
They’re already attacking Rafah. Biden has already lost the election from anybody with any semblance of a conscience.
Over FIVE millions dollars for 100k bodies on the ground seems like it was good enough for genojoe
Your choices are Biden or Trump, both will support Israel. Choose
“Erm akshually you have to vote for genocide”
How about you vote for your favorite brick in this here wall, Good German.
Reader, I address you because this person is a lost cause. If your government and media apparatus tries to compel you to go along with a genocide, and explicitly tells you you have no choice, you have a moral and practical duty as a member of the human race to tear it down and impede it at every turn. We all ultimately have to live with ourselves, never let someone chide you into carving up your soul.
Besides, what you let them do over there today will be done to you over here tomorrow.
love that our community will kill each other over simply pointing out the failure of our current governmental system means we can only choose between fascism and center right ideologiesHmm fascism, fascism, or a real choice. Tough choice.
Sure if you want to run from your problems go for it. If you want to actually live long enough to try and fix the country and oust imperialists, there’s only one option.
If you genuinely believe in “only one option,” then you don’t live in a democracy mate. I’m voting for the correct choice and you can do whatever you want.
I never said we live in a functioning democracy lol
Already got ours passports and flights booked.
We’ll vote w/ somebody that agrees w/ our beliefs about what is “right” and hope the libs have a change of heart eventually…
Absolutely 0 faith in that happening though, so gunna wait out the fallout from outside of this clusterfuck ;)
Leaving is also a cool and good response which weakens the state and I’m glad you guys are getting to safety
Not a binary system mate.
Get with the program or revisit 2016, your choice.
Quite objectively is, change the system. Can’t do that under fascism 乁[ ◕ ᴥ ◕ ]ㄏ
Fascism has been here since the beginning, since before we called it fascism, it was just applied unevenly along class and racial lines. Our fascist party and our “democratic” party will always stop their kayfabe bickering and fall into lockstep when it comes to supporting imperialism and genocide abroad, and crushing the working class here at home. The pool of donors that “both” parties share are all following the same profit motives.
My sibling in christ, your “non-fascists” are doing a genocide right now.
Ok and your option is prevent another from starting here and trying to fix the system to get rid of these assholes or let the people who want to start another genocide right here who still support Israel’s active one
They’re already doing another one here too. Our concentration camps are packed full of kids and asylum seekers, imprisoned in squalid conditions where disease and sexual abuse from border patrol freaks is rampant. Do you know how Anne Frank died? It wasn’t in a gas chamber. It was from Typhus, from the horrible unsanitary camp. Many asylum seekers and their childern have already died of diesease in these hellholes. We are currently creating countless Anne Franks, but you libs stopped giving a shit as soon as blue fascist got elected. Even when they started tear gassing them and forcibly cutting out their wombs, blue maga freaks still found excuses. You will always find excuses not to act, and your final excuse will be “I was simply following orders.”
Both of those happened under trump, letting him win will make it worse that is guaranteed.
Not a binary choice mate.
Show me a candidate that has any chance of winning outside of the two party system then
“You don’t live in a Democracy but get in line and pretend you do”
inB4 “iF yOu CaRE aBOut geNoCIDe yOur a RUssiAN TroLL”
Nobody has ever said that to you, I am quite certain.
I have been called a bot at least 25 times on Lemmy
But nobody has “outed” you as a Russian troll with the sole piece of evidence being… You are against genocide?
Yeah, I didn’t think that happened.
Not sure you want the receipts of all of the shitty people on this app mate 🤣
I just want evidence of the original claim.
Plenty of people said that to me, and I have even heard “don’t be a single issue voter”.
It was said to me just two days ago:
Their comment was deleted by a mod, but I can read it in my replies. Here’s the context:
I will believe it if you can link me to it, otherwise I am quite certain nobody “outed” you as a Russian operative with the sole piece of evidence being that you claim to be against genocide.
I suspect you are warping what was said because it makes a better narrative.
Idk about them specifically but I’ve absolutely seen dismissive responses of “lol fuck off Ivan” to people saying things along the lines of
Don’t be shocked if he loses thanks to this
Multiple times. Sometimes it’s “lol fuck off cuckservative” instead.
That you haven’t shows you’re either not in the comment sections over in .world (good, tbh) or not remembering it, cuz it’s def there.
Well I had to block the entire .ml instance because I was being harassed by pro-hamas posters who were explicitly pro-terrorism.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the behavior on .world left a lot to be desired as well.
