Rules:
*You can teleport into and out of it at will
*It has a couple of plug sockets and can connect to internet from the region you teleported in from
*You can take objects and people with you
*As already stated, it is (3m)^3 (3m*3m*3m). The walls are plain plaster with a light in the middle of the ceiling. The pocket dimension is topologically toroidal, so if there weren’t walls and a ceiling/floor (which you can actually destroy) you would loop if you went more than 3m in any direction. Gravity, then, is artificial and can be altered to anywhere from 0 to 2g from a dial on the wall.
Edit: additional specifications
*You can only teleport out to where you teleported in from.
*Time proceeds at the same rate inside the pocket dimension
*There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
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The archivist inside of me thinks it’s a good idea to make this the control room of the beIN headquarters, because I know a television channel of theirs that has a hell of a lot of lost media. I think Al Jazeera slapped their name on this channel (but it’s not related to journalism, I promise) back when they used to own it, and they made a lot of great shows (and had great branding), but there’s very few archives of what they actually made.
So, in a way or another, I’d be the one responsible for leaking their assets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeem_TV?wprov=sfla1 is what I mean by that television channel I’m talking about.
That’s perfect for drug smuggling
2g weight room. I would train some rabbits to pull weights. Then take my rabbit beasts out after 6 months and have them pull me around town in a sled.
Slow down there Radagast.
Can an object be on both sides of the portal at once? Like if I ran a cable from the inside to the outside. I’m trying to work out how to handle water and sewage, because like everyone else I’ve concluded this is obviously a living space.
I would ask writers Game masters and gamers to use the item in their stories/games and see what uses they come up with i would never thought of on my own
Whike waiting for that to come to fruition ide look for a passable look a like to team up with.
Then i would figure out how the teleporting works. If it maintains speed/velocity/vector/momentum
test if i could jump from really high, pop into my pocket dimension just before hitting the ground cancelling out the speed i was falling when i pop out of the pocket dimension
If i cant then i would make use of the toroidal effect when popping in there after clearing the walls floor and ceiling. Longest free fall ever.
That record is now mine felix baumgartner!
If i can ill beat felix baumgartners records
spend my entire life trying to fill it with poop
and piss
With Poop alone it might be difficult - It would take around 200-400 years to fill that with poop alone, so it’s more of a multi-generational project.
But if you also use urine it’s much faster - Urin alone is doable in 42 years for the average human.
thanks yeah that sounds good
The amount of chaotic fuckery you do with this…
Driver tailgating me? Here, enjoy 3m³ of ocean water, fuckface.
Some big religious event? Imagine the shitstorm that would happen if 3m³ of locust just appeared out of nowhere!
Trump rally? Bees.
“How can I use my pocket dimension to fuck with ___” would be my new approach to pretty much every encounter for the rest of my life, lol.
But you can’t teleport out somewhere other than where you teleported it in. Your road rage fantasy wouldn’t play out in your favor. You could fill the pocket dimension up overnight by teleporting in water from the bathtub faucet, and you could take a swim in it whenever you want to (and presumably teleport out completely dry since you and your clothes teleported in from different places). But when you teleport it out while on the highway, you’d just end up releasing 4,000 gallons of water into your bathroom at home where you teleported it in.
On a scary note, if you were to enter the pocket dimension while it was filled with water from another location, I would strongly recommend against drinking any of it, given the potentially fatal consequences of teleporting back out…
I think you misunderstood something.
You can only teleport out to where you teleported in from.
Yes, so it’s not a transportation device. It does carry stuff with it. So you can put something in it at home, and take it out at work, or wherever.
It’s not a transportation device, but I can put people in it one place and take them out at another? Does everyone/everything else follow a different set of rules than me, owner of the pocket dimension?
People can’t, including you, but things can be moved. You can put you laptop in there, then take it out at work. At least that’s how I interpreted the rule.
This worries me a lot. Why would you want to do any of that? Write a story about that, sure. But doing it? Why? You could seriously harm and hurt people. Doesn’t sound right.
I guess let’s pick apart each one:
Ocean water - idk how the release would play out, but I’m picturing an opening big enough for a person to fit through, like a manhole, releasing as a stream. While a lot, I don’t think that’d be near enough to cause a hydroplaning situation, but it’d DEFINITELY get them off my ass, so win. Assuming the highest potential for harm here, all 3m³ released at the same time, yeah that could fuck up their trajectory in a way that sends them upsided down into a ditch… but if they’re tailgating, they’re already putting my safety in jeopardy, so they’ve crossed the line into me not caring if the solution does the same to theirs. Closest thing I’ve done IRL was spotting a piece of debris (chunk of a bumper or something from another car) on the road ahead while being tailgated, and I waited until the VERY last second to dodge it - the dude tailgating didn’t have time to react, so he drove right into it. Made a really satisfying crunch, and he pulled over presumably to check for damages. Lost sight of him shortly after, since I just kept going. Could it have hurt or even killed him? Yeah, if he turned sharp and started rolling or something. Could his driving habits have seriously hurt or killed me? Also yes, so fuck him: my goal is to get him off my ass, not baby him.
Locust - Not seeing the potential for harm here. The religious nuts would be on high alert watching for fireballs coming down from the sky or rivers to turn to blood; but locusts are just big grasshoppers - not like they’re going to start hunting people down. Seeing that hysteria unfold would be great fun!
Hornets - Kinda same spiel as the driving bit. You’ve probably seen that response to the paradox of tolerance, if not clicky. We’re talking about a group of people whose goal it is to harm/kill me, my family, my neighbors, etc. And since that’s the case, I don’t owe them protection from harm. Hornet it up.
It sounds really boring but… Reading nook - just a little spot to relax and read. Kit out the floor with pillows, the walls with shelves, and paint the ceiling to look like the sky.
Getting to experience improved mental health thanks to having a private quiet place you can think and relax? What a weirdo… (That sounds amazing, I’ll take two!)
I’d put a little fountain in the corner.
break top
break bottom
insert shit ton of rocks
set gravity to 2g for faster gravitational acceleration
I have acquired rocks that can keep falling and build up velocity forever.
live life as usual; when I’m old enough to near death, aim for anywhere within the planet with said rocks.
Assuming I fill the 3x3x3 box half to half with sandstone and air; its weight will be 33kg.
If I live for 70 years more, assuming the gravitational acceleration is 19.72 m/s^2; I can generate stones that can go up to 156.8 billion km/s (or 145 times the speed of light)
I’m pretty sure this will be enough to destroy a huge chunk of the existing universe and in the end I’ll be the person to go out of the world with the biggest bang.
Well, specifics about the big bang is not known; but I’ll be its closest contender if it is correct.
A half room full of sandstone is 33kg? 27m³ room filled half with sandstone? By my calculation it’s more like 31,400 kg
whoops, I mistook 1 m³ as 100 cm³
You can’t pull things out of the pocket without going in there first, which would be deadly in your situation. (OP says you can go in and out, and you can take things with you.)
There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
In this case, when i die; the button will immeadiately get summoned inside the box only to be presssed an instant later
They wouldn’t go faster than terminal velocity if you keep air in the chamber, and even if you remove it, they won’t go faster than c. They’ll still go pretty fast, though.
I don’t think the drag force due to air would work the same in a system with such a high concentration of rocks. It’s not like one object falling through undisturbed fluid, which then has to get out of the way, in this case the air would gradually start to move along with the rocks.
This might be better modelled as turbulent flow of a mixed solid/air suspension. But there’s no ‘edges’ to the flow due to the looped dimension, so the viscous forces are pretty uniform… There would still be a terminal velocity, but much much higher than a rock falling through an atmosphere
Also I imagine the rocks would quickly grind themselves to very fine dust, once they pick up a bit of kinetic energy, so then it would behave more like a fluid with uniform density… Could it even end up as laminar flow?
i don’t think they would grind themselves to dust, as they’re all moving in the same direction therefore their reaktive Velocity compared to each other would be (near) 0, not giving them much energy
It’s a really interesting question, I would love it if someone who understands this kind of physics properly would chime in!
By my understanding of Reynolds number etc, the faster they go, the more turbulent the flow, so the rocks would be constantly hitting against each other sideways, and surely grind to dust in the constantly accelerating scenario.
But maybe the infinite (looped) nature of this ‘dimension’ means that this logic doesn’t apply. What would even be the ‘characteristic length’? Are we thinking about established flow at the centre of an infinitely wide pipe? Am I wrong to think of constantly accelerating rocks with air in between as a type of fluid flow?
No I think you’re right about the fluid dynamics aspect, as we do have an indefinitely long pipe, but in the prompt the walls do still exist, so they’ll probably do create some friction. The question is, would the rocks build up some sort of boundary layer of slower flowing particles near the wall, and how much do the boundary layer and “main” center flow mix?
Thinking about it, it isn’t even an indefinitely long pipe really, as there are no “new” sections of wall coming up, instead it’s constantly passing the same section of wall, and same section of boundary layer…
If someone knows how to simulate this in a physics engine or virtual air tunnel I’d be really interested in that!
Keeping the air was a mistake but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to go faster than c.
According to special relativity, the energy of an object with rest mass m and speed v is given by γmc2, where γ is the Lorentz factor defined above^1. […] The γ factor approaches infinity as v approaches c, and it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate an object with mass to the speed of light. The speed of light is the upper limit for the speeds of objects with positive rest mass[…] This is experimentally established in many tests of relativistic energy and momentum.
More generally, it is impossible for signals or energy to travel faster than c. One argument for this follows from the counter-intuitive implication of special relativity known as the relativity of simultaneity. If the spatial distance between two events A and B is greater than the time interval between them multiplied by c then there are frames of reference in which A precedes B, others in which B precedes A, and others in which they are simultaneous. As a result, if something were travelling faster than c relative to an inertial frame of reference, it would be travelling backwards in time relative to another frame, and causality would be violated. In such a frame of reference, an “effect” could be observed before its “cause”. Such a violation of causality has never been recorded, and would lead to paradoxes such as the tachyonic antitelephone.
1 γ = (1 − v2/c2)−1/2
Hmmmmmmmm, now, how much energy does the box have to generate that constant 2g of acceleration? In this hypothetical the box appears to have an infinite amount of energy to generate that force though…
Yes it seems to have infinite energy but the throughput is limited to 2g of acceleration, unless you give it infinite time as well it will not reach c, though it would approach it.
Doing some calculation the final speed of 33kg, falling in 2g, for 70 years, without friction is “only” 0.9977% the speed of light.
What about quantum entanglement sending a signal faster than light?
(I’m just some schmo who watched an extra credit history series on quantum computing, so there’s every chance in the world that I don’t have it right. )
While the entanglement “signal” is near instantaneous, for various reasons no meaningful information can be deciphered faster than C.
Assuming our quantum theory, while not complete, is not wrong. We will not be able to engineer our way around this limit. A lot of funky shit becomes possible if you can break causality even with “just” information.
I thought the reason quantum theory is so controversial is because it does break causality. Like, currently we can’t decipher it, but is that supposed to be a permanent state- that quantum information is indecipherable until it would no longer transmit information faster than light?
You can transmit something, but it has a noise added to it. To decode it, you need to send the readings to the other end, via normal means. Basically, the receiver can tell, in hindsight, that a message was sent, but only once its other half has been received via normal means. The best you can do is get a timestamp of when the message was sent, as well as a message channel that is impossible to intercept.
The problem comes when QM meets relativity. With instant communication, you can send information into its own past. E.g. A and B are 2 planets. C is a ship, passing planet B at relativistic speeds. Planet A sends a message to B, over the FTL link. B then sends it to C, over a normal link. C, finally sends it back to A over FTL. Due to the ‘tilt’ of C’s light cone, the “now” of A-C is behind the “now” of A-B. This allows for paradoxical situations. The maths of Relativity implies that you can’t form a closed time loop like this. Such behaviours tend to imply some deeper rule, even if we haven’t found its cause yet.
Quantum mechanics has a lot of strangeness. It also seems to play fast, but not loose with causality. E.g. objects can move backwards in time, but still obey causality. Others can be smeared over time space, but still collapse to a causality obeying state. Etc
I might be wrong, but iirc quantum theory just straight up doesn’t give a shit about causality. Where everything else requires the cause to be observable before effect (something travelling faster than light would result in effect being potentially observed before cause), quantum theory says, “why does the universe give a fuck whether or not we can see it? If it happened, it happened, regardless of whether or not we observed cause before or after effect.”
Quantum theory is only “controversial” to the general public, mainly because we haven’t found a way to explain in simple terms things like superposition, entanglement, quantum tunneling. Quantum theory is spectacularly successful, though incomplete.
Even the “simple” stuff like the uncertainty principle takes a detailed understanding to properly grasp why there are pairs of properties that are inherently linked, and that information about one dictates how much you can know about the other. e.g. position/momentum and energy/time.
Basically as far as we can tell there there is no information traveling at FTL speed so it just works? All information that is traveling is just as fast as c or slower.
“Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, might give the superficial impression of allowing communication of information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only let two observers in different locations see the same system simultaneously, without any way of controlling what either sees.” link
“In physics, the no-communication theorem or no-signaling principle is a no-go theorem from quantum information theory which states that, during measurement of an entangled quantum state, it is not possible for one observer, by making a measurement of a subsystem of the total state, to communicate information to another observer.” link
Thank you for this, by the way. I was thinking of the two entangled electrons as communicating with each other, rather than people communicating with each other through the entangled electrons, which I think makes a difference, because it doesn’t rely on interpretation, but obviously we can’t measure how or if electrons “communicate.” Is it correct that one of the limitations is in interpretation or am I reading this wrong?
Well, yes. We don’t know if the measurement we take is the result of a wave form collapse (we caused it) or the result of someone else having measured it, which would giving us the oposite value that they measured. We can’t tell if someone “sent” information or if it was the random result and we have no way to chose what value we (or the other end) gets when we collapse it.
This isn’t easy to explain over text so I’d recommend watching this video, specifically chapter “How to exploit?” as the visuals make it easier to understand.
Velocity changes how time works. The faster you go, the slower it happens.
Any energy lost to air friction would be transferred into the air. In a closed looped system with constant acceleration a single falling brick would eventually stir the air up into a light-speed wind.
Okay, after reading the comments I have determined that this is a magic pocket dimension, not a sci-fi pocket dimension. That’s important. Sci-fi pocket dimension gas too many restrictions, but OP has been kind enough to gift us a magic pocket dimension. If I pop in on a flight, I don’t fall to my death when I leave.
So, I set it up as a space for living in tight quarters. Like an RV, I guess. I make sure it has some exercise equipment, and I give it to my mom to use. She’s disabled, and can’t move a lot under normal conditions, and for reasons I won’t go into, also can’t do aqua therapy anymore. Low g exercise could help her, and we could slowly increase the gravity. Eventually, she could be healthy enough for surgeries that could get her to a better standard of life.
Book cheap flights, cruises, et cetera. Teleport into the room, and back out at the end. Travel the world. If possible, teleport my mom in whenever somewhere is not wheelchair accessible, and then back out once we’ve passed that point.
Make money to support the travel lifestyle by being a magician, or smuggler. Whenever possible use the pocket dimension to help people escape bad situations. Teleport in someone while in my car, drive to safety, teleport out. They’re coming out relative to the vehicle, not the vehicle’s position. Excellent for helping refugees, domestic violence victims, et cetera.
If I can teleport in and out of it at will, does it have to be the same place I teleported from?
Paint the walls green screen green, set up a pretty powerful PC setup (desk and chair included), set up a futon, make sure I have plenty of mood lighting, and start what I want to be a hobby of mine by recording videos while using a 3D model of my fursona without having to worry about people disturbing me.
Free electricity?
Mining crypto with a lot of stolen hardware
No mention of external dimensions, so I am going to assume that it exists in the abstract since you mention teleportation. Like you just think about it and teleport there, not carry it upon your person like a portable hole in D&D.
Like others mentioned, a living space of some kind. I’d worry at first where I teleport inside, like hopefully not inside my mattress. Also, when I teleport back out, where is that? Where I teleported in? What if that gets replaced, like say I popped out while in an empty parking garage, but popped back in and a car is now parked where I left off? Might be nice if I pop back out anywhere I choose. Pop in while in New York, pop out in London.
Man, I’d save so much on rent. Or at least storage.
Yeah I was thinking it would be either a mobile home, or a Skyrim bag.
Can I only teleport back to where I teleported in from, or can I teleport out of the cube to anywhere I want?
Sorry, I should have specified. The former.
How is the pocket dimension anchored? If I was on a plane and teleported to my pocket dimension, and then came back 5 minutes later, would I still be in the plane? Or would I be where the plane used to be 5 minutes ago?
You would still be on the plane.
After spending a few minutes mulling it over, I’ve realized the only right move is for me to sell the cube to someone more clever than myself.
Don’t just sell it - timeshare that bitch!
That’s arguably clever in itself. You recognise your weakness and adapt to turn a profit.
Paint the inside beige and rent it out for $2000/month
Don’t forget to paint over the electrical outlets, the thermostat and door hinges for that true landlord special aesthetic.
Honestly undervalued.
Has internet, and can teleport into and out of at will? Could charge at least $3000/mo
