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    You’re a fucking moron, you know what you just did, you went and googled “aphantasia” and posted everything that came up because I made you mad by telling you to live more healthily and look at plants and sleep better and see if you magically get the ability to imagine an apple back.

    Studies get meta-analysis on them all the time and get questioned en masse, that’s how science works. Is every scientist who does meta analysis on studies now a conspiracy theorist? 🤣😂

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      You are a dumbass, multiple of the studies are meta-analyses and many very clearly state that the group studied are otherwise healthy individuals.

      You have no evidence for your BS claims and that makes you mad.

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        Lol you clearly don’t understand what I’m saying. Yes, and there are other meta-analyses of aphantasia studies which explore how bad the data is. You can also have a meta-analysis that says “wow, look at all of this data, isn’t it amazing?” you only want to do B. Our whole definition of a healthy individual is flawed. When testosterone levels drop nationwide, that becomes the new normal threshold for people administering testosterone therapy, for instance. Everyone has sleep problems from a sedentary lifestyle nowadays, starting in school, and that’s when they get diagnosed with ADHD.

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          and there are other meta-analyses of aphantasia studies which explore how bad the data is.

          Multiple of the studies (including ones I linked) suggest that there isn’t as much data on the subject as there is on other disorders since mental imagery has only recently started being explored in-depth, but where exactly do you see any that suggest that aphantasia isn’t real or that the lack of data establishes no consensus on the existence of aphantasia? Because a “debunking” would do that, but all of the meta-analyses I’ve come across still accept the existence of aphantasia as a chronic disorder.

          Pretty funny how you make these grandiose claims but never have a source.

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            prove aphantasia doesn’t exist

            Prove god doesn’t exist you little weasel

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              I don’t need to prove that “God doesn’t exist” if there’s no scientific proof that God exists. But there is much scientific proof which draws the conclusion of aphantasia existing.

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            it’s fine for the data to be dogshit and ethereal because the science is new

            wow just like string theory. the enshittification of science has been going on since the 90s man

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              Much of the data is good. It’s good data with good methodology that is very clearly explained. It is literally just not as high in volume as most other disorders.

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                It’s about as interesting as studies on what people’s favorite color is. I find the whole shebang embarrassing, glad everyone justified their paycheck, sincerely, people shouldn’t have to do that and should be free to research cool shit

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                  Well what you think about things isn’t important because you have no say in the matter and can’t find a source that agrees with anything you say.

                  You made a claim that “ADHD and aphantasia are caused by living an unhealthy lifestyle”. You’ve been pretty loud about how you want better evidence, so where’s your evidence for your claim? This is clearly something that would need real evidence on for you to state it as a fact. Where is it? Why do you think you’re exempt from having “good research” proving that X claim is true? You keep talking about this “debunking” but you have not even a singular source that affirms anything you’ve said here.

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                    If you’re seriously asking me whether healthy eating and sleeping are on the front lines of treatment against ADHD then I think that’s itself an admission you have zero familiarity with these things save for your wikipedia reply guy binges.

                    The fact that treatment is coming around more to working on environmental and behavioral factors (rather than throwing random stimulants at kids to see what happens and how much money we can make pharma monopolies) is proof that it’s just a product of unnatural pressures being placed on kids. We just need more education funding instead of tax cuts for pharma executives. Kids need better lesson plans, more engaging education, a structured environment, there are a lot of positive examples we can look to for treatment of these issues rather than pretending diet, exercise, sleep and boredom don’t exist.