Hi there! I hope it’s ok to ask this here. I’ve been wanting to crochet an almost floor length cardigan, so I would need a lot of yarn. The pattern said they used a Level 4/Worsted weight yarn and had a gauge of 8 stitches and 6 rows on 4"x4". Now, I can’t really find out what equals as worsted weight yarn here in Europe, and the ones I found all feel too thin to achieve that gauge. I’ve been to a local store where they recommended some cotton yarn and wool to me that should be equal to worsted weight. Now the thing is, they are quite expensive and I still can’t get close to that gauge, meaning I would need even more. However, what I found of WW yarn, they all seem to be acrylic and honestly not much cheaper.

So I’m currently a little stumped, am I looking for the wrong things or do I have to face the fact that this cardigan would cost me about 180€ of yarn?

  • Lemmine@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Thanks for your question. Sure it is okay to ask here, this community needs more active members.

    As for your question: I also haven’t got a clue about worsted weight yarn as I am from Europe myself. So what I do is look for a similar gauge and buy whatever I like. Works out fine most of the time.

    Yarn is expensive in large amounts and wool even more so. So 180€ seems normal-ish for this amount of wool. I am sure you could do cheaper than that but not too much. I would consider making the cardigan from cotton yarn, which is still gonna be expensive but probably less than 180€

    Hope I could help!

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    6 months ago

    Google tells me that “#4 Worsted” yarn weight in America equals “Aran” weight in the UK and Europe. Is that helpful?

    Also, cotton feels really nice, but it’s not going to have the same kind of drape that wool or even acrylic might have, or what I would want in a cardigan. (But you’re not me, so…) I’ve had good luck with superwash wool from Knitpicks. I’ve made a cardigan and a sweater with it. I spent about $100 US on a booty length cardigan amount of yarn (knit, not crochet, if it matters), so your price quote for floor length seems about comparable.

    If you’re in the UK, knitpicks.com will ship to you. Doesn’t look like they go to Europe though. :(

    I hope any of that helps some. Good luck on your cardigan adventure!

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      6 months ago

      Google is wrong. Aran is a thicker yarn on average. Worsted is between DK and Aran.

      Here’s just the top of the yarn menu from Canada’s largest wool independent store. Wool-Tyme. As we get EU, and UK yarn as well as US, the full range is represented.

      Suggest that the OP look through their sizes to see what UK yarns fall under ‘worsted.’

      https://wool-tyme.com/collections/yarn

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        6 months ago

        This is a great store, thank you for sharing! And seems like they might also ship to my place (tho probably at horrendous shipping rates, I’ll have to check on that hahah) Either way it’s good to get an overview of available yarns, so really thanks a lot!

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    6 months ago

    A worsted is a bit finer than an Aran, heavier than a DK.

    Knitting with worsted normally gives 20 stitches per 10 cm/4in in stocking stitch. Aran would give 18, DK 22.

    With crochet, the hook size and stitch type will make a huge difference. If you use the stated hook with a worsted instead of an Aran weight you’ll have a more open fabric. That may be what you want, especially with a cotton.

    Best advice to give is to do a sample of at least 15 by 15 cm / 6 x 6 inches. That will give you a benchmark of the stitch size, the amount of yarn used and the stiffness or drape of the fabric you’re creating.

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      6 months ago

      Thank you so much for your help! May I ask, do you see any way to achieve the patterns gauge with 8sts x 6rows on 4"x4" with 6mm hook? It says with front loop stitches, does that actually make a huge difference? I did make a test patch, but had double the gauge size (16sts x 12rows). Now, it looks nice this way, but after using up a whole skein to estimate the needed yarn, I realized it would actually be more than ~210€ worth of it, which just seems so much to me 😅 but that’s why I’m asking, I have actually no idea how much is usually needed.

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        6 months ago

        Yes, front side of the stiches only will make a significant difference, and a looser fabric.

        But it’s also true that as we become more seasoned at crochet our tension will change. If you’re too tight or too loose, definitely do another test swatch with a different hook-size.

        Last, while the measurements are for a 4x4” swatch, you really have to have a bigger square to get a true measurement of the tension. The edges do affect things. That’s why, I always go for a 6x6” swatch and measure inside of that.

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    6 months ago

    Just wanted to add, don’t hesitate to use more than 1 thread of yarn at once. It’s really easy to triple your working yarn as you go by pulling big loops from each other. Look it up on YouTube, it’s really hard to explain with words but that technique is genius.